BOC: Eric on WotT and other things (long)
Rudich, Robert A
Rudich at VOLPE2.DOT.GOV
Thu Apr 18 12:00:00 EDT 1996
Here is some real grist for the mills. The interview follows the short
review. It has some very interesting questions, many of which have been
brought up here..
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Blue Oyster Cult - Workshop of the Telescopes
While Deep Purple and Black Sabbath were reigning as the frontrunners
of the British proto-metal scene, there was one American band that was
merging the melodic intensity of Purple and the heavy riffs of Sabbath
across the Atlantic. That band is Blue Oyster Cult. When Deep Purple
and Black Sabbath were disintegrating both as a group (due to lineup
changes) and status wise (due to the rise of punk), the same band's
beautifully terrifying Don't Fear the Reaper was becoming a cult
classic and the Oyster boys were at their peak.
It's 1996, and Blue Oyster Cult are still swimming in the seas of Rock
and Metal. They have been a profound influence on many bands today and
there's a new compilation out, containing some of their best
recordings. Workshop of the Telescopes contains 32 digitally
remastered tracks that enables Blue Oyster Cult to lay claim to being
one of the pioneering proto-metal bands. Radio favourites such as
(Don't Fear) The Reaper, Godzilla, and Burnin' Up are all here, along
with some all time greats like Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll, The
Red and the Black, and the title track. This is an interesting
collection in that when you listen to it, it becomes more clear who
Blue Oyster were influenced by and who they influenced. This is
evident not only from their aggressive cover of Steppenwolf's Born to
be Wild, but also from the doomy Sabbath-type riffs in Cities on Flame
and the punkish feel present in Kick out the Jams and Dominance and
Submission. Conversely, This Ain't the Summer of Love brings to mind
Midnight Oil, Veteran of the Psychic Wars reminds me of a cross
between Styx and Queen (not just for the drum beat), and Mike Watt
(formerly of fIREHOSE) has made it clear on record that Blue Oyster
Cult have had an impact on his music. Veteran of the Psychic Wars was
also featured in the cult (no pun intended) movie Heavy Metal, which,
incidentally at time of writing, has been released in a "louder and
nastier" version. It looks like the same thing has been happening with
Blye Oyster Cult, and I can't wait for their next studio release!
The album contains three previously unreleased tracks, and is
definitely worth getting if you want to have a complete Blue Oyster
Cult collection of music, or as a starter if you want to hear more of
their music.
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Interview with Eric Bloom of Blue Oyster Cult
I asked Eric Bloom a bunch of questions about Blue Oyster Cult, their
current label situation, the current state of music, and future plans.
Here they are, along with his responses.
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I just got hold of Worskshop of the Telescopes, and my first question
is: why another compilation album?
Because Sony (CBS) wanted to put it out. We are no longer signed
there. I imagine they did it for economic reasons, cause they own the
stuff, including the artwork. It is selling well, and I think it's a
decent representation of the material.
Why not release a studio or live album?
Easier said than done. This has become a bit of a soap-opera for us,
I'm afraid. We were signed to Atlantic a couple of years ago. One of
the factors for signing us was the Reaper being in Stephen King's "The
Stand" on TV. They were promised a new (acoustic) version of the
Reaper that would appear in the movie that they could use in our new
album. Stephen King agreed, but the Director said no. So, Atlantic
reneged on our already signed contract, finding a clause somewhere to
invoke. We are involved right now in negotiations with a European
label, and hope to have some new material for sale before the summer
of '97.
What was the track selection process?
We didn't have much to do with it, but thought the selection was fair.
Some people might think certain songs should have been on it and
others think something else, but I think the most obvious tunes are
there.
An interactive CD-ROM or live video in support of Workshop would be
really cool. Are there any plans for that?
No current plans to do interactive CD-ROMS. Although there is a game
out now, RIPPER, with The Reaper used in the soundtrack.
Given your experiences with Sony, what do you feel about the whole art
vs. business issues in music?
There's not enough space [here] to discuss artist vs. company. There
have been several books written about it and most major artists find
huge [amounts of] dollars hidden by the companies when they have an
audit. It's the nature of the business. In general, CBS was straight
with us, when we had fans working inside the company. We were there so
long, 3-4 different Presidents of the company came and went...
The PR stuff I got didn't mention the current lineup. What is the
current lineup (I know you, Buck Dharma, and Alan Lanier form the core
group)?
Currently, the band lineup is Buck, me, Allen, Danny Miranda on bass,
and John O'Reilly on drums. We are very happy with the current band. I
think it's the best the band has ever been. For more info on other
opinions, you ought to check out the BOC BB at AOL. I can provide you
with some fans' email addresses who come to a lot of shows. The fan
club has never been more active, with more people joining.
Is there a chance that you'll ever reunite with the Bouchards?
Unlikely there will ever be a reunion. There's no reason for it.
A related question: will there ever a reworking of Imaginos (which is
one of my favourite BOC albums, BTW) with the complete package being
released?
That could only happen with Pearlman's input, as he would be the
godfather of such an idea. The public didn't buy Imaginos, which is a
shame, and I'm afraid the record company didn't really promote it's
existence too well. It's an interesting album that deserved more
listening than it got.
I saw you play with Chuck Burgi and I thought he fit in very well. Why
didn't that work out?
Chuck got an offer he couldn't refuse from Blackmore. Don't know what
he's up to right now.
There will be a sequel to Heavy Metal, the movie. Do you plan to do
any of the music for it?
If they ask us, we would love to do some more music for it. Listen to
the soundtrack of "Bad Channels".
I've heard statements that the album Fire of Unknown Origins was
recorded in order to be used as the Soundtrack, and that didn't work
out later (for some reason). Is this true?
What you heard about Fire of Unknown Origin is not true. In the middle
of recording it, we were asked to write a song for Heavy Metal. I
think Albert got the movie script and wrote tunes especially for Heavy
Metal. When the movie people didn't buy them, and chose Veteran
instead, we used the song he wrote for Heavy Metal on our album.
What was the music scene like when you guys started out? Were bands
like Black Sabbath and Deep Purple looked upon as competitors, or were
they influences, or both?
I would say, vis-a-vis, our influences... Black Sabbath was certainly
the prototype for all Metal that came later, as is Deep Purple. Gotta
include Ted Nugent and MC5, too. We sorta took a different path,
especially lyric-wise.
What music do you currently listen to?
I personally listen to all kinds of stuff. Biohazard, Prong,
Machinehead, Deftones, love the White Zombie album of last year, Rage
Against the Machine, Pantera, etc. I like very little of what is
called Alternative, except maybe Stone Temple Pilots.
I guess that bands like Deep Purple and Black Sabbath are also
struggling in this "alternative" world; do you think heavy metal music
will ever rise in popularity?
I don't know. I know that the Rainbow album Blackmore put out for
Europe and Japan did well there, but [he's] having trouble getting it
out over here.
There's a strong underground metal scene, which focuses on
death/thrash metal. Do you like any of that at all?
I like some of the "Underground" metal bands; the music , that is. The
current trend of harmonized unintelligible vocals is a mystery to me
though. I like Life of Agony cause you can hear what he's
saying---good band.
What gear are you using these days? Does Buck still play the
Steinberger?
Buck still plays Steinberger, yes. I play ESPs. Great guitars. They
have custom-made me a terrific ESP Custom with the artwork from 'Cult
Classic' on it. We (BOC) recently began using Ampeg (bass) and Crate
(for guitars and keyboards). Ampeg just sounds great, and the Crate
amps we are using crank! They have really done their homework and we
are very happy with the Crate Blue Voodoo amps and cabinets. John uses
TAMA drums.
Stephen King has said that he likes your music a lot. Do you like his
writing? If so, what's your favourite book by him?
Buck reads all his stuff. I am more into fantasy and sci-fi, than
horror. I also like techno-thrillers. Looking for a good read? Try
'Hyperion' or the William Gibson books.
In general, what's a day being in BOC like?
Typical day on the road, is travel. A lot of it. Flying, driving,
hotels, motels. I take a laptop with me and spend time online in the
rooms. Playing a long show and next day doing much the same. We play a
lot. That's why we have the saying OTF---On Tour Forever. I designed a
T-shirt that Onliners can get: BOC OnTour/Online, and we can be
reached through the fanclub at bocfanclub at aol.com. I post all tour
dates and band news at the BOC BB in the music message center there
[AOL]. I know of a couple of BOC websites that friends of the band
have created, which can be found using a browser, and at least one
newsgroup, alt.music.blueoystercult.
And what do you do outside of BOC?
Online a lot at AOL. Too much, probably. :) I am very involved in
Gemstone III, a text-based role-playing game at AOL. I do monthly BOC
online live chats at AOL the 2nd Tuesday of every month, in the
'Nightclub' at 10pm Eastern.
What can we expect in the future from BOC?
We are very up about recording soon, and we should be in the studio
this summer into the Fall, playing a few shows on weekends. We have a
lot of good new material, some of which we play live now. Most of our
shows are selling out and we all have a good time. That's what it's
all about. :)
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Amen! I definitely recommend seeing them if they come to a town near
you---they put on a tremendous live show, and it's one of the few
opportunities where you can listen to new material by them.
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