HW: help identifying tape 11/5/80

[cjohnson]

         Andy says:
>Treforest, South Wales, is quite close to Cardiff, South Wales, but not
>really near Chelmsford, Croydon or St Albans.
>
>Looking at the itinerary, I'd have to say that the 7th looks a lot more
>plausible for the Treforest date - otherwise they're travelling from S
>Wales to the other side of London, then straight back to S Wales.
>Not impossible, but unlikely even for HW :)
>
>- Andy

       Put this together with Adrian Parr's placing the Treforest gig on
       11/7/80, and we may be able to narrow our conclusions.  It seems to
       make sense (geographically speaking) that Treforest was NOT on the
       5th.  This now leaves us with two possible venues, two possible
       dates, one tape, and (possibly) a second un-taped gig.

       This leads me to 3 different theories:

       1. HW played St.Albans on 11/5/80, Treforest on 11/7/80.  The tape
       which does not have "Dangerous Vision" on it was really recorded at
       St.Albans on 11/5/80, while another (un-taped?) gig was also played
       at Treforest on 11/7/80.  Possibly "D.V." could still have been
       played at Treforest.  This allows for playing an advertised show at
       St.Albans, an unadvertised(?) or late-added(?) show at Treforest,
       and no conflicting geographical sites.

       2. HW took 11/5/80 as a night off, played Treforest on 11/7/80, and
       just didn't play "D.V.".  This means that St.Albans was not a venue
       during this tour.  Downside:  Bernhard states that St.Albans was an
       advertised venue for this tour, in the tour programme(?).

       3. HW took 11/5/80 as a night off, played St.Albans on 11/7/80, and
       just didn't play "D.V.".  No Treforest this tour.  This also allows
       that the band did not cycle between Wales and London, they just
       didn't get to Wales until 11/8/80 Cardiff.  Downside: "D.V." is
       played regularly starting 11/6/80; why not play it on 11/7 ?

       The date 11/7/80 was a Friday night -- an unlikely night to NOT be
       playing a gig somewhere on such a busy tour.

       Sounds like we still don't have enough info for a definitive answer
       to this riddle (yet).  Does anyone think that Adrian Parr might be
       able to shed some additional light on his own source for claiming
       that Treforest was on 11/7/80?

       Captain Cloud
       cjohnson at sur1a.hpsc.hisd.harris.com