OFF: Lothar & Early Synth Stuff

[Craig Shipley]

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Craig Shipley                        craigs at siemens-pyramid.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ch'mu <cannibal at CUTEY.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Saturday, December 06, 1997 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: OFF: Lothar & Early Synth Stuff


At 19:51 06.12.97 -0500, you wrote:
>Christian sez...
>
>
>>At 09:41 05.12.97 +0000, ya wrote:
>>
>>>Nope, worse, it was a full size Hammond.
>>
>>I thought the Moog was heavier since it was a complex
>>set of magnetic strips with different sounds recorded
>>that were read every time a key was struck and thus was
>>the first "real" analogue synth, and the Hammond "merely"
>>and electric organ.
>
>Christian, Christian, Christian, you poor benighted fellow, you.

>Well, thankyou :)

Most welcome...

>What you are describing is a MELLOTRON!!!

>D'OH!!!!!!!! I knew this - I just confused the two, probably since they
>both are strange 70s technology and begin with an M... yes, I knew it
wasn't
>a synth, but was at a loss to find the word "sampler" - believe me, the
>brain damage can be quite crippling from time to time! I will punish myself
>now by listening to "Popcorn" a million times as I scrawl into my skin with
>a rusty needle "that's a moog, that's a moog, that's a moog"... then when
they
>lock me up I will request "Assault And Battery" just to punish my self.

Kinky li'l devil, ain't cha???

(And, no, Jean-Michel Jarre did NOT play "Popcorn"; that was Gershorn and
Kingsley!)

>Y'know, the string intro on
>"Assult and Battery / Golden Void" from WARRIOR?? The 'Tron was never a
>synth (although there were some synth sample tapes, IIRC),  but an early
>sampler, if you will. They were heavy (the figure 400 lbs. stick in my
head)
>but Emersons' modular Moog was heavier by at least 100, maybe 300 lbs (I
>seem to remember that the Moog weighed either 500 or 700 lbs.

>Damn! why???

Ever seen it, the beast is HUGE! It stands about seven foot tall or more,
has stainless steel access doors and is chock full o' 1960's-era state of
the art electronics! (Can you say, pre-IC??) It has a ton of modules, a
bogus TV "monitor" (just shows a pre-set waveform) and is just a tank. (I
read all of this in the VINTAGE SYNTHESIZER book, btw...)

> (and a helluva
>lot bigger. A 'Tron 400 looks like a Hammond console organ, so you is
>forgiven for getting the two kornfoozed).

>Oh yeah, sure, I knew that :)

I knew you did...

> Important points here, Emerson
>never played a 'Tron, to the best of my knowledge, and he never took one on
>stage if he did. He did all of his stage antics with a Hammond B-3 (he
>"stabbed' the keyboard with a knife to hold the keys down, his "ripping out
>of the guts" was to manipulate the reverb by hand, etc. He wasn't really
>destroying the instrument).

>Cool, I do this with my computer keyboard sometimes with broken beer
>bottles.

Yeah, we have enjoyed a couple of your "performances"! :-)


>>>Poor girl was brain damaged.
>>
>>Well, she had to be to go and see ELP in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>Bite me!! :-) So watch you are callin' brain damaged, 'cuz you are probably
>hanging out with a bunch of us that  are!!!

>This list is all upstanding, well dressed and educated people with no
>experience in brain damage or any other things associated with the word
>"brain"! (/"%$%$!!?)

Absolutely, positively 100% correct, sir! I am honored to be in the company
of such fine individuals such as your self and others (except Steve Swann,
of course, he's a troublemaker and the Root Of All Evil. At least, that what
we can blame on him, which is all things....).

>(waitaminute, that didn't come
>out the way I wanted it to!!! :-S  (How do you do a confused emoticon?)).


You get one by experimenting with sharp objects stuck between keys! Like
the monkey I posted a few days ago.

>ELP was the first band that I heard that used synthesizers and TARKUS still
>stands as one of my all-time favorites (than 'n BRAIN SALAD SURGERY). They
>did kinda tank after that, but lotsa bands did in the late '70's...

>Yeah but you must be old :) EVERY band I grew up with used synthesized
sounds
>:(

Forty-one, dude. Gee, stop posting for a while and they all forget you! Hey,
it's me, y'know, the old fart, "Pops" Shipley, remember??? I saw ELP on both
the TRILOGY and the BRAIN SALAD SURGERY tour, Yes on the RELAYER and DRAMA
tour (met Trevor Horn at that one), Zappa every time he came to DC or
Baltimore, Pink Floyd on the post-DSotM, Black Sabbath on the BSV tour,  BOC
on the LIVE IN 76 tour (hell, I was at that show!!) and several others,
Kansas on the LEFTOVERTURE tour, Traffic on the WHEN THE EAGLE FLIES tour
(that release has one of the best recorded 'Tron solos in "Dream Gerard")
and a bunch more that me tired ol', Red Brick Seasonal Ale (local Atlanta
brew, also the makers of Laughing Skull Pilsner, both excellent) addled
brain has forgotten...

>Christian

>NP: Architectural Metaphor - Creature Of The Velvet Void

NP: Mark Shreeve - Crash Head (my 12-year-old son's request).
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Craig Shipley                        craigs at siemens-pyramid.com
Siemens-Pyramid Information Systems, Inc.
1100 Johnson Ferry Rd. NE                                Suite 400
Atlanta, Georgia 30342                              (404) 845-3404
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