So when did Dave go to Hawaii? Check out http://www.gatewaytohawaii.com/Travel/VisitHawaii/Kauai/Sights/Waimea.html for how to get to Waimea Canyon on Kauai... it looks pretty cool, too! -Andy -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham