BOC-L Digest - 21 Jan 1997 to 22 Jan 1997

[Ted Alger]

>You're right--I misinterpreted what you had written.  Please accept my
>apologies.
>
No problem....I was just venting.

>Most of us would like nothing more than for them to prove that they are the
>best band in the world right here and now in the 90's.  But because their
>output for this decade consists of "Bad Channels", and some unreleased
>songs, I personally, cannot conclude this to be true.  Perhaps this is the
>cynicism of the '90's, or of the internet.  (Or maybe I'm impatient after 5
>years of promises--I don't know.)

well, as far studio, you're right.....but I was basing my opinion on having just
seen them in December and my experiences a few years ago.  I place alot of
emphasis on live performance, and I still think BOC is one of the best live
bands I've ever seen

>I don't think there is an above-average amount of slamming of their old
>work.  Folks here can be downright reverential towards it.  (I'll be more
>than happy to rave about the genius in "Death Valley Nights" or "Morning
>Final" any time.)  The negative attitude and cynicism arise with regard to
>promises of future work.  Most of this comes not from mean-spiritedness,
>but instead from past form.
>
No, there isn't much slamming of the back catalog (excepting CN), but I
was thinking more of the general attitude towards the band NOW.

>>...and I may not be a BOC-L curmudgeon, but that doesn't mean I'm
>>a 14 year old know nothing kid.
>(Ummm...I don't recall anyone saying you were.)

no, you didn't, but the impression I've gotten (maybe wrongly) is that some
people on this list tend to ignore people that are new to this list, as theo
commented, because they are " somehow more enlightened" (I know its not the
exact context the comment was made in, but it fit) and I was a little annoyed
because of the tone of some of the posts....again you didn't say that.
my apologies, I was just venting again

>>Every time I've seen BOC, I've been amazed by Buck/Joe/Jon/Eric (whoever).
>>And for anyone who might think I'm fawning, I could go post to
>>MMC/ROCK/BOC on AOL or better yet, Eric and Buck's E-mail addresses are
>>well known.
>No one said you were.  You _are_ welcome here.  We could all use some
>optimism.

again, I was being a little defensive, but the negativity on this list sometimes just
really gets my blood boiling.....especially with the "info" and comments that seem
to have a real hurtfull tone.....like the one about "the record company hearing what
they had and telling them to piss off".....gee, haven't heard that from anyone else...
where'd it come from, and if he's such a fan, why does he sound so gleeful about it?
rumors only make things worse, and stories about "I heard from so-and-so who heard
from someone else that this happened" really don't make things any better.  I would
think if everyone was such big fans they'd be a little more supportive. I'm not saying
I like waiting (you think I like waiting 4 or 5 years for a new Queensryche album? or
King's X, or etc, etc...) for the new material, but I consider myself lucky because, quite
frankly, I never expected to hear anything after Club Ninja!
I hope  I haven't pissed everyone off, but again, I think they ARE one of the best bands
in the world, and I hate to see this going on.  I don't even bother to post to the
Queensryche group most of the time (and personally I LIKED _Promised Land_, and I
don't think they are disappearing up their own a**es...it's called progression)
because I have little hope for that forum.....but I don't want to give up on BOC.  I've
gotten so much pleasure from the albums and shows (not to mention how cordial they've
been everytime I met them) that I feel _I_ owe them that much.

sorry to ramble.....it's been a long day




Ted Alger
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