HW: Live at The Kinetic Playground

[S. Davies-Morris]

Does this mean that if I use *silver* discs I can cut roms up to 78
mins in length on my CD-R?

I ask because I'm doing the production work for the debut Under The
Sun full-length CD (demos from the album to be released soon).  The
extra 4 mins might make a difference in deciding on the song list
and/or the inclusion of a video file talking about the process of
making the album.

Regards
Steven Davies-Morris
Applications Liberate Hardware / JES & Assoc.
(714) 557-8799 or (714) 553-8200
sdavmor at mcione.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Monday, July 06, 1998 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: HW: Live at The Kinetic Playground


>On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Kevin Sommers wrote:
>
>> > ObTechnologicalAdvance: Being able to divide trax without silent spaces
>> Oh, but you can, you can!  The recording program I use, which allows a
>> zero-second gap between tracks, comes from http://www.goldenhawk.com/.
>
>And it's trivial to do with Adaptec's Easy-CD Pro program that's bundled
>with many a CD-R drive.  You just write in "disc-at-once" mode, and the
>gap between audio tracks is set to zero seconds.  The only "downside" is
>that this closes the CD-R to further writing (so you can't add further
>tracks on the end later), but if you've assembled everything on hard
>disc, and written your masterpiece bootleg final version, it's no
>problem.
>
>Actually, making CD-R bootlegs is so easy, I'd say that's grounds for
>not including them in discographies (to comment on the recent thread).
>At least with silver CD bootlegs, someone has gone to the prior effort
>of pressing a *release*, i.e. taking some risk of making a fixed-size
>run.  With CD-R bootlegs, it seems anyone with a CD-R burner and a
>colour printer can just crank them out of his or her basement at
>leisure, with no real investment other than the time it took to sample
>the tape, write the CD-Rs and design and print the inserts.  A sizeable
>project, yes, but no great threat financially.  And once the first is
>made, the rest are quick 'n' dirty to run off.
>
>The best thing about CD-R bootlegs, IMHO, is that it is easy to "beat
>the boots" and copy them yourself, since you have access to the same
>media the bootlegger had.  This is not always the case with silver CD
>bootlegs, which can exceed the 74 minute running time limit due to
>professional pressing.
>
>(Actually, if the Kinetic Playground bootleg had not been a CD-R one, it
>might have avoided the jarring cuts described in another posting,
>because you can squeeze almost 80 minutes on a silver CD.  I have two
>Bevis Frond CDs that clock in over 79 minutes, and I've heard "the
>longest CD" is just a tad over 80 minutes.  I have some silver CD
>bootlegs that cruise the 78 minute mark.  It's surprising what proper
>mastering can do for you.:)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul.
>
>e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
>"I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time"
>        --- James Marshall Hendrix