Fw: Re: HW: I've been meaning to ask this...

[Rich Lockwood]

Will do when I get home (sometime over the weekend).  All I know at the mo.
is that they're all marked 1972 on the label, and the longer intro version
came in a black/white Doremi style sleeve.  Sadly I spilled gin on one of
them last night, but I think I managed to wipe most of it off with my
t-shirt.  ;-)

I'll let you know.

Cheers,


Rich.

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: M Holmes <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK>
>To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Date: 27 August 1999 12:43
>Subject: Re: HW: I've been meaning to ask this...
>
>
>>Rich Lockwood writes:
>>
>>> I've been on the list for about three / four years now, and have always
>>> meant to ask this, but never got round to it...
>>>
>>> Here goes.
>>>
>>> Silver Bloody Machine 7" single.  On United Artists.  Catalogue number
>>> UP35381.  Produced by Hawkwind and Doctor Technical.  We all know that.
>>> I've got three vinyl copies of the damn thing, and one of them hasn't
got
>>> the obvious crowd noises at the start, and the (for want of a better
>phrase)
>>> WAWAWAWAWAwawawawawa...wawawawawWAWAWAWAWAWAWA bit at the start goes on
>for
>>> ages.  But the catalogue number and all other information on the label
>are
>>> exactly the same.  Can anyone enlighten me?  Have I got a 12" version on
>7"
>>> or something?  Or were there a couple of different pressings?  In all
>other
>>> aspects they're exactly the same - I know, I sat up until about 4 this
>>> morning with only a bottle of gin for company trying to spot
differences.
>>> And there aren't any.
>>>
>>> Sorry if everyone out there knows all the differences and I'm just being
>a
>>> cretin, but it's been bothering me.
>>> :-(
>>
>>Relevant sections of the Codex follow. You can tell which version you've
>>got by checking the runoff groove on each side. There'll be a number
>>from A1 to A4 and B1 to B4. The combinations known are:
>>
>>7 inch
>>
>>A1/B1 and A1/B2    - 1972 original release and rerelease due to demand.
>>                     Seven by Seven remixed on the 2nd release.
>>A2/B2              - 1976 different remix of Seven By Seven and Silver
>>                     Machine from the segue with Seeing It As You Really
>>                     Are made for Roadhawks.
>>A3/B3              - 1978 original version of Silver Machine with 1976
>>                     version of Seven by Seven
>>A4/B4              - 1983 original version of Silver Machine and cut
>>                     version of Seven By Seven from Space Ritual LP
>>
>>After 1983 the versions released were the 1976 Silver Machine from
>>Roadhawks and the cut Space Ritual version of Seven by Seven. This may
>>be different in other countries. Abroad there were also double A side
>>Silver Machine/Urban Guerilla released with the 1972 version of Silver
>>Machine.
>>
>>Also on 7" was the version of Silver Machine on the Magnu motorbike pic
>>disk and the pic disk of Warrior for the 10th anniversary reissue from
>>Choose Your Masques in both ull and edited format.
>>
>>12 inch
>>
>>1978 the silver coloured sleeve had the original silver machine with the
>>1976 mix of Seven By Seven. There was also a 12 inch version of the
>>Silver Machine/Magnu seven inch.
>>
>>Could you have a look at the runoff grooves on yours and let me know.
>>I'm curious.
>>
>>FoFP
>>
>>
>>Silver Machine
>> L  2     Glastonbury Fayre
>> L  2     Assassins of Allah LP
>> L  2     Dawn of Hawkwind CD
>>    3     Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972]
>>    3     X In Search Of Space  [Spanish album and remastered CD only]
>>    3     Doremifasolatido      [Japanese album only]
>>    3     US  double 7" EP
>>    3     Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go German double 7"
>EP
>>    3     Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1978]
>>    3     Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1978]
>>    3     Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1983]
>>    3     Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1983]
>>    3     Silver Machine/ Urban Guerilla 7" [Dutch 1989]
>>    3     Stasis
>>    3     (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords
>>    3     25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set]
>>    3     Sonic Boom Killers
>>    3 a   Roadhawks
>>    3 a   Silver Machine/ Urban Guerilla 7" [German 1975]
>>    3 a   Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1976]
>>    3 a   Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [after 1983]
>> L  8     Silver Machine/Magnu 7"
>> L  8     Silver Machine/Magnu 7" motorbike shaped pic disk
>> L  8     Silver Machine Live 12" EP
>> L  8     Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD]
>> L  8     Ironstrike
>> L  8     British Tribal Music
>> L  8     Castle Masters Collection
>> L  8     Night Riding
>> L  8     The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind
>> L  8     The Early Years Live EP
>> L  8     The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I CD
>> L  8     Acid Daze Vol. III CD
>> L  8     The Hawkwind Collection
>> L  8     Best of Hawkwind CD
>> L  8     Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation]
>> L  8     Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird)
>> L  8     Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] {Silver Machine live}
>> L  8     Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation]
>>    9     Choose Your Masques
>>    9     Silver Machine 10th Anniversary  7" EP [long version]
>>    9 a   Silver Machine 10th Anniversary  7" EP [short version]
>>    9 a   Choose Your Masques [CD only]
>>
>>      *   Version 2 was recorded at the Roundhouse in 1972 and not at
>>          Glastonbury.
>>      *   Version 3 was mixed from version 2 at Rockfield.
>>      *   Version 3a was remixed from 3 for the Roadhawks album by
>>          overlapping the end of the Shouldn't Do That track from the
>>          Space Ritual encore with the start of the version 3 single.
>>      *   Version 5a is a remix from version 5
>>      *   Version 7 stops with an explosion soon after the track begins
>>      *   The 10th anniversary 7" EP contained both the version from the
>>          Choose Your Masques album, and a shorter edited version. The
>>          CD of Choose Your Masques had the full three tracks from the
>>          10th Anniversary EP and thus contained the full version twice.
>>          The EP was also released as a pic disk with the covers from
>>          Warrior On The Edge of Time and Doremifasolatido.
>>      *   Two versions of Silver Machine on Assassins of Allah LP and
three
>>          versions on Dawn of Hawkwind CD
>>
>>Seven by Seven
>>    1     Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972]   A1/B1
>>    1     In Search of Space [remastered CD only]
>>    1     Sonic Boom Killers
>>    1 a   Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972]   A1/B2
>>    1 b   Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go German double 7"
>EP
>>    1 b   Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1976]
>>    1 b   Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1978]   A3/B3
>>    1 b   Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1978]
>>    1 b   Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1983]
>>    1 b   Stasis
>>    1 b   Lord of Light
>> L  2     BBC Transcription Disc LP
>> L  2     Space Rock from London
>> L  2 a   BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD
>> L  3     Space Ritual Alive
>> L  3 a   Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1983]
>> L  3 a   Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [after 1983]
>> L  4     Space Ritual II
>> L  4     Hawkwind Live  [Imtrat]
>> L  4     Hawkwind: The Masters
>> L  4     Ridicule
>> L  4 a   Live '70/'73
>> L  4 a   Welcome To The Future     [Mausoleum LP]
>> L  5     The 1999 Party
>>
>>      *   1a is a remix of 1 - both released in 1972
>>      *   1b is a remix of 1
>>      *   2a is a remix of 2
>>      *   3a is a cut version of 3
>>      *   4a is a cut version of 4
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