OFF: 10 Most hated

[Doug Pearson]

On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:36:49 -0800, Joseph Brooks <Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET>
wrote:

>Oh, I just can't resist this one. Apologies to those who don't care for this
>sort of thing and fans of those bands on my list.

Same here; I must have too much pent-up negative energy inside me ...

>In no particular order (and staying within the general rock genre from the
>70's thru the 80's):
>Toto (I'm with ya, Torgo)
>Styx
>Journey
>Boston
>Foreigner (May qualify for #1 most despised on my list)
>Loverboy (another contender for the #1 spot)
>Pat Benetar
>America/Bread (is there really any difference?)
>Jackson Browne (Again, I'm with Torgo)
>Ratt (a close runner up)
>Poison
>Duran Duran

I certainly wouldn't defend any of those bands, but I'd have to leave
Foreigner (by virtue of using an EML101 synthesizer, same as Alan
Ravenstine of Pere Ubu, on some of their early records) and Pat Benatar
(can't slag anyone who covers a Sweet song! Damn - that puts Def Leppard
and Love & Rockets, two horrible bands, off limits - yuck) off my list.

Sounds like you stopped listening to the radio/MTV years ago!  I find it
difficult to loathe very many of those bands since nobody would dream of
playing (for instance) a Poison or Loverboy (well, actually, I once saw the
Zip Code Rapists perform a note-perfect rendition of "Turn Me Loose")
record in this day and age (see, all that grunge crap was good for
SOMETHING).  My list certainly wouldn't be complete without:

Smashing Pumpkins (had to listen to their early stuff when I did college
radio; I even bought their second 7" on Sub Pop [solely because of the
label] and thought that it sucked, even before they put an album out)

Depeche Mode (probably only because I had to listen to them because of a
past girlfriend, but I really can't stand that whiny
"we're-so-sensitive-and-misunderstood" crap that's shamelessly pandering to
the adolescent female set; give me the Spice Girls over them any day!)

oh hell ... I can't even think of anyone else worth the effort ... not even
Marilyn Manson (fortunately, I've only had to hear his crap once) ... not
as much negative energy as I thought, I guess ...

and, on Thursday, March 18, 1999 1:48 PM, Torgo Sedler
<drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>Not naming any names, but I know for a fact that there is a MAJOR Styx
>fan on this list. As for older albums like "equinox" and "Serpent", I
>heard them all as a kid, but it's been a long time...

I was hoping I could refrain from contributing to THAT thread, but my
bandmate Steve (in Primodrial Undermind) went to college at Notre Dame
(Indiana) in the early/mid-70s, saw Styx numerous times when they were
still a bar band (maybe even before signing w/Wooden Nickel?), and he says
that they ALWAYS sucked (but then again, he doesn't even like the other
band I'M in).

>And as for pissing on bands we hate, someone mentioned that we should
>find a common band that we despise. Well, I think that will be
>impossible to do, as no matter who is mentioned SOME ninny will stick up
>for them.

One of the things I love about this list! The range of opinions is about as
wide as you can get!

>But it would be interesting to see who we really dislike musically. I
>mean, we pretty much stated our faves when we all did our "dream band" a
>while back.

Exactly! No harm in doing the opposite (heh heh ... anyone wanna come up
with their scariest "nightmare" bands?  I won't - I would *definitely* be
pissing on some listmembers favorites if I did, as the singer and probably
drummer would come from the same Canadian power trio ... )

>JACKSON BROWNE.
>Awesome guys like Elvis Costello and Warren Zevon always get compared to
>him... and I don't know why, as they have more talent than this
>over-ripe melon of a performer.

I'm not a fan of Elvis Costello (but I'll refrain from ever slagging him
since he used Barney Bubbles for many of his album sleeve designs -
obligatory Hawkwind content!), but he's got a zillion times the talent of
Jackson Browne, and also had a great quote about Boston: "you see, rock and
roll is about SEX; those guys are EUNUCHS!"  And whatever you think of his
music, you gotta loathe Jackson Browne for being a hypocritical
"save-the-rain-forest-no-nukes" PC kind of guy who beats up his girlfriend
(Darryl Hannah, I believe it was) on the side.  At least Ike Turner never
pretended to be a "sensitive" guy.

>I could go on, but I think I see a pattern developing, and an annoying
>one at that. :^)

Isn't that the point? ;^)

        -Doug
         ceres at sirius.com