OFF: "musicians made drug use look tempting?" ^_~ =koff=

Chris Warburton desdinova at EARTHLING.NET
Tue Nov 23 20:17:27 EST 1999


At 16:54 23.11.1999 GMT, you wrote:
>Chuck Rosenberg writes:
>
>> In a message dated 11/22/99 10:38:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes:
>>
>> > Wonder how many
>> >  > of 'em take prozac [probably a lot, eh?] valium etc...
>> >
>> >  I also saw on libernet today that a Colorado School District wants to
>> >  limit the prescription of psychoactive drugs such as prozac and ritalin
>> >  to students. This is a result of the discovery that in almost all recent
>> >  school shootings, at least one of the perpetrators has been taking such
>> >  drugs.
>>
>> Whoa, whoa: Prozac, if I'm not mistaken, is prescribed for
>> depression/anxiety/obsessive-compulsive disorder. A bi-cyclate, or one of
>> those groups. And valium for anxiety/insomnia. These aren't psychoses, eh.
>
>Those and Luvox (sp?) are of concern because of disinhibition effects
>and because Luvox allegedly causes violent feelings in 4% of users.

Similar questions are now being asked about Prozac!

>There's something amiss when 6 million kids are on psychoactive drugs
>for "Attention Deficit Disorder" and hyperactivity. When I grew up that
>was "Won't pay attention" and "won't behave" and schoolteachers had very
>direct ways of dealing with this. These "diseases" may exist, but I
>seriously doubt they exist in these numbers. I reckon the problem is bad
>parenting and (even at the risk of coming off as a conservative) parents
>putting their own convenience before the lives of their kids when
>considering separation and divorce.
>
>I find it completely bizarre that the same society which foisted the War
>on Some Drugs on the rest of the civilised world manages to sedate so
>many of its kids on other Drugs of Choice.
>
>FoFP

Unfortunately, ADD & ADHD have become catch-alls, so you are right up to a
point, but my own personal experiences have taught me that to take such
problems seriously.
Points to consider:
1)The enormous rise in the use of food additives, many of which -
particularly Red/Yellow/Orange food colourings - are known to cause severe
allergic reactions, including hyperactive spectrum activity & asthma attacks.
2)ADD/ADHD started off as a very controversial idea, but now it's very hip
in child psychiatry, the end result being false diagnoses - see below.
3)Childhood onset bi-polar depression manifests itself in a similar fashion
to ADD/ADHD, in these cases, like my son, Ritalin has the opposite effect
to the one desired, but because many of the medical profession still
poo-poo the diagnosis (despite the massive evidence available), thes
children get classified as "hyperactive but not responsive to medication".

I could ramble on for pages.

As for the "bad parenting" and divorce comments, I've calmed down now, and
I shan't be stalking Scotsmen at HW gigs with a 10" boning knife - there's
a lot of it about, though how much of it is truly "bad" rather than lazy or
careless I'm not sure; in my own case, it took me seven years to realise my
marriage was a disaster, I hung on for another three "for the sake of the
kids" and it only made things worse.  Believe me, lots of people stick
together who shouldn't, and the home stresses have a very bad effect on the
kids, in many cases worse than the consequences of divorce.

Rant off.
ChrisW


"a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" -
Bierce



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