> > I'm for flinging them into a pit of well fed wolves. And wait for them to > get hungry. > I dunno, I'd prefer to use the '1984' trick - cageful of hungry rats strapped to their face..... And, just because I'm a sadistic bastard, I'd soften them up with lots of crap music first; Debby Boone, Leo Sayer, Neil Sedaka, etc., all at 11, of course..... :)