Yep, that Murdoch rag again: http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/07/22/timmetmms01006.html AND! http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/07/22/timmetmms02003.html -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk