OFF: Virus alert (gen u whine) =)
Sprawl
sprawl at STARPOWER.NET
Tue May 9 14:05:30 EDT 2000
I hate MS. I like their products. I am an IT professional.
(To my experience) Most windows problems are caused
by windows users. I believe that windows has become
so predominent that the core should be made available
to all prospective OS developers.
(Especially since all the best bits are stolen
anyway...) Yeah 10 or 20 intercompatible OS's............
What the hell do I know. I just got all this mail in my box,
thought I might try something more interesting than pressing
delete..delete..delete..delete..snicker..delete...
Outlook is a major target because it allows an experienced user
to do more with it than send chain jokes to his or her pals, and
because it is so widely spread. Virii are created in the hopes of
gaining fame (even if no one ever finds out who is really responsible..)
Like writing your initials in wet cement....
Britney Spears et al do not suck. We just don't like them.
I haven't seen my dick in a few months, if anyone happens upon it,
would you be so kind as to send it home?
Just playin around... =)
Rj
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Siegerman <erics at TELEPRES.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: OFF: Virus alert (genuine)
>On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 08:46:30PM -0700, JOHN M GRAY wrote:
>> That's right, I remember now the MS bullies came to my house and forced
me
>> to use their products. Get real, they conduct business like most other
>> companies, that's capitalism.
>>
>> >But why is MS so popular? It has brutally taken over the market and more
or
>> > less forces people to use its software.
>
>Straw-man argument. Of course they don't force individuals to
>run Windows. They do, however, make every effort to force major
>computer makers (eg. Compaq, Dell, HP) to install it, so that
>when the buyer gets the box home, that's what they'll run on it
>as the path of least resistance.
>
>Windows also has a *massive* advantage from the simple fact that
>so many people are already running it -- regardless of its
>technical merits or lack of same. Because of the large user
>(read "potential customer") base, developers quite reasonably
>write software for Windows first (or only). For example:
>
>On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 00:09:53 -0400, Andrew Apold <mordru at FLITE.NET>
>> Give in. I was an Amiga developer. The stuff mac users have
>> been saying to themselves these last 4-5 years, we said them,
>> too. It doesn't matter. Develop for the largest market.
>
>Thus more software is available for Windows, which means more
>people run Windows... Snowball effect -- more formally known as
>the "applications barrier to entry" against any potential
>competitor to Windows.
>
>Which Microsoft makes every attempt, by means fair or foul, to
>preserve. That's why they were so intent on exterminating
>Netscape -- at great cost -- and why they tried to subvert
>Java's platform independence. In both cases, they correctly saw
>that anything that makes it easier to write software that's
>portable to both Windows and any non-Windows platform, threatens
>the golden-goose snowball effect.
>
>Before you respond that I'm just another Microsoft hater (which
>I am, and proud of it!), and put my comments down to paranoid
>ranting, please do me the courtesy of reading my references --
>Judge Jackson's "Findings of Fact" and "Conclusions of Law and
>Order" in the recent lawsuit:
> http://usvms.gpo.gov/findings_index.html
>and
> http://usvms.gpo.gov/
>respectively.
>
>"Applications barrier to entry" is Jackson's term, by the way,
>not mine.
>
>
>On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 23:35:53 -0500, Dan Witt <lwitt1 at USWEST.NET> wrote:
>> It's scary when the feds can announce that MS is too
>> popular, we're going to chop you up,
>
>It's not a matter of "Microsoft software is too popular", "Gates
>is too rich", or any of those other straw men. It's a matter of
>*how* they got that way, and how they stay that way. Read the
>judgement.
>
>--
>
>| | /\
>|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com
>| | /
>to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of
>ridicule. he was NOT a loser.
>thank you, Mr. Schulz.
> - Robert C. Mayo
>
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