BOC: Imaginos: in reply to everything

[Johnny Firic]

Hi folks,

this is an attempt to reply to every post I can think of. I will later
re-read all of today's posts to see if I've missed something.

1. First, I checked all the lyrics with the fanclub website before I posted
the thing. "mimic cry" in particular, imho, is not that difficult to make
out on the cd, and it makes sense, in my interpret. at least.

2.as for "women's farm", yes, I've thought about it. and come up with
nothing!

3. something I've just thought of, in view of "The girl that love made
blind".

"Well it's never said at all, on the MAP THAT CARRIE READS"

perhaps because Susie is the one that's blind?

4. cul de sac = simply a dead end. right, and a castle at its end. I should
have explained this better. The cul-de-sac is normal human life, which has
an end to it. people want immortality here and now, and Frank gives it to
them. this is the "drug by the name of / world without end."

5. there have been a lot of tolkien references lately. this cul-de-sac issue
is very similar to the Fall of the Numenoreans.

6. speaking of tolkien, i don't suppose there's anyone here from
alt.fan.tolkien or rec.art.books.tolkien? i used to post a lot there, but i
don't have usenet access so far. in two weeks time, i'm back!

7. back to topic. i disagree that the imaginos songs (the 9 that were
published) may be 'inconsistent' in the vein of The Silmarillion, being
constructed over such a long period. i disagree because Pearlman was the
mastermind of the entire project. there were the detailed liner notes and
everything... Albert B. says he regrets the thing left "half done", but I
think he refers only to the left-off songs. imho the thing as is is
excellent, and simply calls for a sequel.

8. as for other songs like D&S, RU Ready etc. etc. believe me, i have gone
through all the lyrics of all (published) songs. there is IMO no grounds to
treat these songs like regular Imaginos songs, because who knows what
would've happened to them. four winds -> four doors is a good example. 'four
winds' makes no sense lyrically. four winds at the four winds bar, what a
surprise. like 'bob at bob's place'. however, 'four doors etc.' implies
looking for a way out ('doors - no good! windows - no good! well, nothing to
it but wait and see what happens...'). also, compare "subhuman" and "BOC".
the latter is twice as long as the former. ergo, if d&s for instance made it
to the sequel (and Al makes no mention of it), who knows what would have
happened!

9. related: but what about WoTT? Well, in this case it seemed to me that it
was in all points consistant with the theme, and that it additionally
explained Dee, Drake etc., something left fairly vague in the 'Invisibles'
lyrics & liner. i think 'redeemed', which was mentioned many times as
belonging with Imaginos (cf. the original first album liner, many Al B.
references) should have been mentioned, but i couldn't really think of
anything to write! originally, i had prepared a note about left-off songs,
but in the end i deleted it.

10. notes on 'the girl that love made blind' and 'half life time'. i
mentioned above the map thins, implying that susie may be blind. as for the
suggestion that it's a 'man made reference', well, so is christmas, and it's
all over TGTLMB. so is the year 1892, for example. world axis is simply a
metaphor, so as not so say "London" explicitly. as for the phrase 'half-life
time'. i can't offhand remember the very first line of dante's 'inferno',
but i'm sure it mentiones something like that, possibly presisely that. what
he means there (this ties in later, you'll see) is that the whole inferno
business happens in the year 1300, when he turned 35 and had so gone halfway
through his 'life time', which was then considered to last for 70 years.
this is not my interpretation, i've read it in some expert analysis.
relation to imaginos: 'inferno' (some equivalent of it) begins halfway
through his life. reminiscent of the opening lines of D&S, isn't it? all
hell breaks loose, the old gods return, what not. half his life he was 'just
getting ready, then it was time'. but as i said, i refuse to treat these
other songs as proper imaginos songs (see 8)

11. "over the side" (from WoTT) cannot possibly refer to his drowning! they
didn't PUSH him over the side (!?), they *left* him for dead on the beach.
'over the side' (I might have explained this one a bit better, too) refers
to the New World. in the Geocentric idea of the world, after the discovery
of the New World, it was thought that the Old World was on one 'side' of the
world, and that the New World was on the 'other side', beyond the horizon.
'corner' i'm not sure about, but the rest of it is prettymuch there. there
is btw a comic, Hagar the terrible, something like that. he's a viking, and
there are lots of pics of his ship moving over to a different 'side over the
world'.

12. ah yes,  the new hampshire reference. it refers to ME. i moved to new
hampshire in august, three weeks ago, to attend college.

13. i don't think there's the possibility of a 'back to the future'
situation with Imaginos jumping back to the 16th century and so on. he was
'a man on a mission'. the most he did against the orders was the 'lesser
birds' thing, he would depart and arrive on the same day, his & his
granddaughter's birthday (another Tolkien connection, cf. Bilbo & Frodo!)

14. i do actually believe in this "he woke up and discovered it was all a
dream" idea, as John calls it. now that i've come up with it, nothing else
seems convincing. if it's not true, what is the significance of the (name)
Magna of illusion? and, connected with this, i actually can see Pearlman
writing all this back in the sixties, and thinking "oh, how they will all
end up looking  like idiots in the end. AND i'm gonna make lots of money on
them" etc. well it didn't come out that way in regards to 'imaginos' maybe,
but you get the picture.

15. as for port jefferson, well, if anyone has the lyris at least, please
post! ditto for "gil blanco county" - isn't that the one related to Shadow
of Cal. ?

there you go - till the next 'sortie',

Johnny
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