HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision

[Captain Bl@ck]

Here's as much as I know...

Paul Rudolph DID play some lead on Astounding - namely City Of Lagoons,
Aubergine, Kerb Crawler, Chronoglide and the solo during the third verse of
Steppenwolf.

He DID play some lead live, as photos from the tour will testify (on a black
Gibson Les Paul, to be exact).

Who played Bass? Simon or Dave?  Does anybody know for sure?

Captain Bl at ck.

----- Original Message -----
From: bedroom trancer <bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision


> I think i asked this before but i can't remember getting an answer
> though....
>
> Did paul rudolph ever strap on an electric guitar during any of the live
> gigs he did with hawkwind and if he did who then played the bass?
>
> also is a lot of the lead guitar on astounding by paul rudolph or is it
all
> be dave brock?
>
>
> cheers
>
>
> colm
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Captain Bl at ck" <starfield at SUPANET.COM>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Sent: 17 April 2001 19:15
> Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision
>
>
> > Horses for courses. I mean, Eno produced Lucky Leif and look how laid
back
> > that sounds.
> >
> > Someone (may have been you, Doug?) posted that Rudolph got an EMS Synthi
> and
> > disappeared into his room prior to leaving the Fairies - I'd never heard
> > this before, any evidence to substantiate it?
> >
> > I have a great photo of him playing bass with the Hawks dressed in
> > sportsgear - if and when I get a scanner I'll post this one up.
> >
> > And how come Rudolph did the late '76 tour even though Powell and Turner
> had
> > gone? Had they nobody to replace him at that point?
> >
> > Captain Bl at ck.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Douglas Pearson <ceres at SIRIUS.COM>
> > To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision
> >
> >
> > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:33:19 +0100, Captain Bl at ck
> <starfield at SUPANET.COM>
> > > wrote:
> > > >Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I
> was
> > > >making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the
> > > >Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer
Madness
> > > >and, yes, all the cool instrumentals............
> > >
> > > Would it be more accurate to say a "second album by the Rudolph/Powell
> > > lineup" rather than "ASAM as a double LP"?  (Since clearly some of
those
> > > songs hadn't been written yet when ASAM was recorded - 'Atomhenge 76'
> > makes
> > > it clear that the lyrics to "Hassan i Sahba" weren't written until
after
> > > that tour.)  I wholeheartedly agree that those four songs should have
> been
> > > on a studio album together; heck, that probably edges out 'Earth
Ritual'
> > as
> > > my favorite never-recorded-but-might-have-been/almost-was Hawkwind
> album.
> > >
> > > >The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live
> > material
> > > >will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes.
> Armchair
> > > >Hawkwind, anybody?
> > >
> > > At least it's not as laid-back as the Hawklords album. (the one which
I
> > > generally referred to as "armchair"; and the live recordings by *that*
> > band
> > > kick ass, too)  Now, if Paul Rudolph could have actually gotten Eno to
> > > *produce* it - wow!  That could have really been something!
> > >
> > > I think that the main problem with ASAM is not that it's at all a bad
> > album
> > > ("Steppenwolf" is one of Calvert's best characterizations, "Kadu
Flyer"
> is
> > > one of Nik's best, "City of Lagoons" perfectly captures the lazy,
> swampy,
> > > overbearingly-tropical mood of Ballard's 'The Drowned World' [quite
> > > obviously the inspiration for the piece], etc.), but rather that it
> falls
> > > between two of the best albums in Hawkwind's career ... in much the
same
> > > way that Rudolph's bass playing is underrated since he fell between
the
> > two
> > > best bassists in Hawkwind's career (and also because, as good as his
> bass
> > > playing is, it doesn't come CLOSE to his six-string work with the Pink
> > > Fairies on stuff like "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout").  The diversity
of
> > > bass playing on 'Atomhenge 76' is unquestionably impressive, but never
> > > quite matches either Lemmy's propulsive overdrive or Adrian Shaw's
> warmly
> > > melodic feel that fit so well with Simon House's keyboards.
> > >
> > >     -Doug
> > >      ceres at sirius.com
> > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: The Devil <deltawave at METRONET.COM>
> > > >To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> > > >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:27 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>    Capt. Black said:
> > > >>
> > > >> "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double
> > > >> album, think what a classic that would have been."
> >