HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision

[david hall]

Whilst I love Capt Lockheed....I'm sorry to say Lucky Leif is just mince
(bought it about 20 years ago - UA original). Hype is way better.

Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Captain Bl at ck <starfield at SUPANET.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: 17 April 2001 19:16
Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision


>Horses for courses. I mean, Eno produced Lucky Leif and look how laid back
>that sounds.
>
>Someone (may have been you, Doug?) posted that Rudolph got an EMS Synthi
and
>disappeared into his room prior to leaving the Fairies - I'd never heard
>this before, any evidence to substantiate it?
>
>I have a great photo of him playing bass with the Hawks dressed in
>sportsgear - if and when I get a scanner I'll post this one up.
>
>And how come Rudolph did the late '76 tour even though Powell and Turner
had
>gone? Had they nobody to replace him at that point?
>
>Captain Bl at ck.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Douglas Pearson <ceres at SIRIUS.COM>
>To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:57 AM
>Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision
>
>
>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:33:19 +0100, Captain Bl at ck <starfield at SUPANET.COM>
>> wrote:
>> >Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I was
>> >making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the
>> >Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer Madness
>> >and, yes, all the cool instrumentals............
>>
>> Would it be more accurate to say a "second album by the Rudolph/Powell
>> lineup" rather than "ASAM as a double LP"?  (Since clearly some of those
>> songs hadn't been written yet when ASAM was recorded - 'Atomhenge 76'
>makes
>> it clear that the lyrics to "Hassan i Sahba" weren't written until after
>> that tour.)  I wholeheartedly agree that those four songs should have
been
>> on a studio album together; heck, that probably edges out 'Earth Ritual'
>as
>> my favorite never-recorded-but-might-have-been/almost-was Hawkwind album.
>>
>> >The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live
>material
>> >will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes. Armchair
>> >Hawkwind, anybody?
>>
>> At least it's not as laid-back as the Hawklords album. (the one which I
>> generally referred to as "armchair"; and the live recordings by *that*
>band
>> kick ass, too)  Now, if Paul Rudolph could have actually gotten Eno to
>> *produce* it - wow!  That could have really been something!
>>
>> I think that the main problem with ASAM is not that it's at all a bad
>album
>> ("Steppenwolf" is one of Calvert's best characterizations, "Kadu Flyer"
is
>> one of Nik's best, "City of Lagoons" perfectly captures the lazy, swampy,
>> overbearingly-tropical mood of Ballard's 'The Drowned World' [quite
>> obviously the inspiration for the piece], etc.), but rather that it falls
>> between two of the best albums in Hawkwind's career ... in much the same
>> way that Rudolph's bass playing is underrated since he fell between the
>two
>> best bassists in Hawkwind's career (and also because, as good as his bass
>> playing is, it doesn't come CLOSE to his six-string work with the Pink
>> Fairies on stuff like "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout").  The diversity of
>> bass playing on 'Atomhenge 76' is unquestionably impressive, but never
>> quite matches either Lemmy's propulsive overdrive or Adrian Shaw's warmly
>> melodic feel that fit so well with Simon House's keyboards.
>>
>>     -Doug
>>      ceres at sirius.com
>>
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: The Devil <deltawave at METRONET.COM>
>> >To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>> >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:27 PM
>> >Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision
>> >
>> >
>> >>    Capt. Black said:
>> >>
>> >> "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double
>> >> album, think what a classic that would have been."
>