In a message dated 8/4/01 1:35:50 PM, ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << Ah, you're such a purist, Larry! :-) >> oy..... and i should talk. we went through 3 bassists and 2 guitarists in my own, 'real', band [of which das ludicroix was _not_] 4 bassists if you count the one gig appearance of BOC-L's own 'rmayo' das ludicroix was a matter of 'whoever shows' "<>"