----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams <mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK> Isn't harvey kind of a member when they play live anyway i mean he has appeared quite a lot recently with them on stage? Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 During the 1999 Mini-Tour and at Hawkestra & Astoria, but I think he's in America during the November tour schedule? Ian