BOC: Lots More o' Stuff & the mac
Tim
ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET
Fri Jul 6 18:24:29 EDT 2001
ahh...the old fleetwood mac...still working on getting their music on cd. though i
did see the '75 version on their first tour opening for jefferson starship!...blew them
off the stage...
look for `rock & pop legends-peter green' or `rattlesnake guitar-tribute' cds
kick ass
heathcliff
Scruton, Jason wrote:
>
> John Quoted (now I'll have to get a PDF viewer. thanks for the info on
> Morning Final!):
>
> >"To date, these rehearsals and recordings were the bands most thorough
> >work for any album before or after, with almost 3 months on
> >pre-production alone. And for all that work came the album that most fans
> put
> >at the bottom of their 'fave album' list; which Eric, in England's New
> >Musical Express paper, alluded might make good frisbees;
> >and to this day is sometimes referred to as "Errors."" MF 08
> Wow. that's interesting to know. It shows that Werman just wasn't the right
> producer for the task. Fortunately for BOC, the live performances always
> pull the band out of the fire... Just listen to their version of "The Vigil"
> thats been in setlists these last few years-- its much more heavy than the
> studio track. They really needed someone who was able to do something with
> the material presented. What artists did Werman produce for? I'd wager
> money (if i had any) that they were AOR through and through -- sounding
> clean,pristine and devoid of anything that might be remotely enjoyable (like
> Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" sound, which was referred to before on this
> thread. Makes you wish that people remember Fleetwood Mac for their Blues
> band/Peter Green formation moreso than the later "stuff" (to put it
> nicely)).
>
> >> I listened to the 1st 3 releases I pretty much felt them to
> >be a unit - not only did I consider each one to be an album but all 3
> worked
> >together as a sort of meta-album.
> >Most fans, and even the band, would agree with that assessment.
>
> The liner notes of the remastered ST reflect that. Would be curious to hear
> what pearlman or Krugman have to say about the rerelease of the catalog
> these days.
>
> Speaking of units, any word anywhere on when the next batch of remasters
> will be set free from their prisons? and if there is, what can we look
> forward to extratrackwise?
> (I really hate not having internet access from work. then again, It's nice
> to be productive once in a (long) while.)
>
> >Exactly. The band was no longer writing as much as a unit, but working
> >on demos at home so there is much more individual efforts,
> >which yielded >more diversity. Also, after "Reaper", the band was more
> conscious of
> >trying to write a radio "hit".
> Reaper's demo has a more Mideastern tinge to it with the demo, due to the
> guitar(whose tone reminds me of Jeff Beck's in the Yardbirds' "Shapes of
> Things" (esp. the guitar solo break)) soloing at the intro and book
> percussion sound.
>
> If AoF didnt convince you of the diversification, the bonus tracks on AoF
> should do it: Albert's FoUO is quite texturally different than the first 3
> (with maybe the exception of the sound of Redeemed; it also blends nicely
> bridgewise to "Death Valley Nights" (i think Brian said this to me once);
> Sally has a much "funkier"/James Brown-ish allusion than what we'd be used
> to from the band, esp. in the "scratches on your knees..." verse sections
> and the "morning sun was rising", "Scratches on your knees..." and so forth.
>
> But then again, look at how ST ended -- Astronomy is a very non- super heavy
> monster metal riff song in the studio at least. Live is a different matter
> cuz of the extended, heavier Dharma solo. It may have parts that are like
> that(astronomy, a star, and the Hey! sections), but the main verse music is
> very laid back and... different than the firestorm of "Flaming Telepaths"
> and "Dominance", or the extra tracks for that matter. The 4 tracks
> accelerated that direction of the group maybe.
>
>
> >Probably partly true. But "Some Enchanted Evening" broke up the space
> >between "Spectres" and "Mirrors", so I think that contributed to the
> >more sudden drop-off a the time of "Mirrors".
> I wonder: did the inclusion of two cover songs on "SEE" probably throw some
> for a loop as well? I would not have expected (had I been more than a few
> years older than 3 then) a band with 5 studio albums under their belt,
> coming off their biggest 2 albums to date, to throw in someone else's
> material, no matter how cool their version of Kick out the Jams is. Then
> again, a live version of "Celestial the Queen" (if it was ever done live)
> probably would have resulted in furrowed eyebrows.
>
> >Then again, if you were in high school in 1972-1974, by the time
> >"Mirrors" was coming out, you may have been getting out of college and
> >persuing other interests, so that may have been a factor too...
>
> Wait a minute, slow down a second, John. There's more to life than BOC???
> hypothetical answer: "Yes, Jason. The Brain Surgeons."
> Jason replies," Whew! You had me worried for a minute!"
>
> The world's my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum,
> Jason
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