BOC: Lots More o' Stuff & the mac

Tim ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET
Fri Jul 6 18:24:29 EDT 2001


ahh...the old fleetwood mac...still working on getting their music on cd. though i
did see the '75 version on their first tour opening for jefferson starship!...blew them
off the stage...
look for `rock & pop legends-peter green' or `rattlesnake guitar-tribute' cds
kick ass
heathcliff
Scruton, Jason wrote:
 >
 > John Quoted (now I'll have to get a PDF viewer. thanks for the info on
 > Morning Final!):
 >
 > >"To date, these rehearsals and recordings were the bands most thorough
 > >work for any album before or after, with almost 3 months on
 > >pre-production alone. And for all that work came the album that most fans
 > put
 > >at the bottom of their 'fave album' list; which Eric, in England's New
 > >Musical Express paper, alluded might make good frisbees;
 > >and to this day is sometimes referred to as "Errors.""  MF 08
 > Wow. that's interesting to know. It shows that Werman just wasn't the right
 > producer for the task. Fortunately for BOC, the live performances always
 > pull the band out of the fire... Just listen to their version of "The Vigil"
 > thats been in setlists these last few years-- its much more heavy than the
 > studio track.  They really needed someone who was able to do something with
 > the material presented. What artists did Werman produce for?  I'd wager
 > money (if i had any) that they were AOR through and through -- sounding
 > clean,pristine and devoid of anything that might be remotely enjoyable (like
 > Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" sound, which was referred to before on this
 > thread. Makes you wish that people remember Fleetwood Mac for their Blues
 > band/Peter Green formation moreso than the later "stuff" (to put it
 > nicely)).
 >
 > >> I listened to the 1st 3 releases I pretty much felt  them to
 > >be a unit - not only did I consider each one to be an album but all 3
 > worked
 > >together as a sort of meta-album.
 > >Most fans, and even the band, would agree with that assessment.
 >
 > The liner notes of the remastered ST reflect that. Would be curious to hear
 > what pearlman or Krugman have to say about the rerelease of the catalog
 > these days.
 >
 > Speaking of units, any word anywhere on when the next batch of remasters
 > will be set free from their prisons? and if there is, what can we look
 > forward to extratrackwise?
 > (I really hate not having internet access from work. then again, It's nice
 > to be productive once in a (long) while.)
 >
 > >Exactly.  The band was no longer writing as much as a unit, but working
 > >on demos at home so there is much more individual efforts,
 > >which yielded >more diversity.  Also, after "Reaper", the band was more
 > conscious of
 > >trying to write a radio "hit".
 > Reaper's demo has a more Mideastern tinge to it with the demo, due to the
 > guitar(whose tone reminds me of Jeff Beck's in the Yardbirds' "Shapes of
 > Things" (esp. the guitar solo break)) soloing at the intro and book
 > percussion sound.
 >
 > If AoF didnt convince you of the diversification, the bonus tracks on AoF
 > should do it:  Albert's FoUO is quite texturally different than the first 3
 > (with maybe the exception of the sound of Redeemed; it also blends nicely
 > bridgewise to "Death Valley Nights" (i think Brian said this to me once);
 > Sally has a much "funkier"/James Brown-ish allusion than what we'd be used
 > to from the band, esp. in the "scratches on your knees..." verse sections
 > and the "morning sun was rising", "Scratches on your knees..." and so forth.
 >
 > But then again, look at how ST ended -- Astronomy is a very non- super heavy
 > monster metal riff song in the studio at least. Live is a different matter
 > cuz of the extended, heavier Dharma solo. It may have parts that are like
 > that(astronomy, a star, and the Hey! sections), but the main verse music is
 > very laid back and... different than the firestorm of "Flaming Telepaths"
 > and "Dominance", or the extra tracks for that matter. The 4 tracks
 > accelerated that direction of the group maybe.
 >
 >
 > >Probably partly true.  But "Some Enchanted Evening" broke up the space
 > >between "Spectres" and "Mirrors", so I think that contributed to the
 > >more sudden drop-off a the time of "Mirrors".
 > I wonder: did the inclusion of two cover songs on "SEE" probably throw some
 > for a loop as well? I would not have expected (had I been more than a few
 > years older than 3 then) a band with 5 studio albums under their belt,
 > coming off their biggest 2 albums to date, to throw in someone else's
 > material, no matter how cool their version of Kick out the Jams is. Then
 > again, a live version of "Celestial the Queen" (if it was ever done live)
 > probably would have resulted in furrowed eyebrows.
 >
 > >Then again, if you were in high school in 1972-1974, by the time
 > >"Mirrors" was coming out, you may have been getting out of college and
 > >persuing other interests, so that may have been a factor too...
 >
 > Wait a minute, slow down a second, John. There's more to life than BOC???
 > hypothetical answer: "Yes, Jason. The Brain Surgeons."
 > Jason replies," Whew! You had me worried for a minute!"
 >
 > The world's my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum,
 > Jason



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