BOC: Lots o' Stuff

[keith kirk]

eaval is only 1119 foot high . know of E.T.I.,but as to black blades i wont
settle for lies ,so dont fear the reaper,CARRER OF EVAL.,good to see hw,&
boc on the same page no floyd but what about magnum.ps could do with one
,well it is that kingdom of madness,how is it a master of disguise.


>From: "John A. Swartz" <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU
>Subject: BOC: Lots o' Stuff
>Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 09:06:45 -0400
>
> > Umm... call me crazy but I thought that it was written by A.Bouchard and
>D.
> > Roeser after taking the music from Arthur Comics.
> > The remaster lists "S. Pearlman, E. Bloom and A Bouchard" in the writing
> > credits for the studio version. Odd.
> > The plot thickens?
>
>Yes, I think this was an obvious mistake - hell, this doesn't even list
>BUCK as having written  Buck's Boogie.  Probably a cut and paste error
>from another song - the "Workshop of the Telescopes" compilation finally
>got it right (according to Bolle) - previously it was credited only to
>Buck, but the compilation credited it to both Buck and Albert.
>
>Besides, exactly what part of Buck's Boogie could be attributed to Sandy
>Pearlman - he only supplied lyrics!
>
>"The plot thickens?"  Nah, don't be so cynical.
>
>
> > What I love about BOC's Mk. I lineup (shout out to all you DP fans who
>know
> > this kinda fun group  labeling))
>
>Hey, has anyone ever done one of those "tree diagrams" showing all the
>incarnations of BOC and where various members came from or went to?
>
>
> > It would be a cool  venture, and probably one that wont' result in money
> > loss, if BOC authorized Bolle to do a "Bolle's Picks" bootleg series of
>the
> > shows he has (and the band member's show archives too)  akin to the
> > collector series that King Crim has of bootlegged shows gone by.
>
>
>Indeed.  However, I suspect that much of "Bolle's Picks" are being
>handled with these remasters as I believe he made some suggestions to
>Sony as to what should/could be included.  So, with these remasters and
>the SFG album (oh, and the Buck Dharma Archive stuff too), you're really
>getting some of the best of the best stuff out there.  Perhaps after all
>the Remasters come out we could take stock of what stuff is still out
>there that should see the light of day (SWU demos perhaps?).
>
>
> > I think we would all want the complete Live in the west, given the two
> > samples on T&M alone.
>
>Agreed.
>
> > What are the rest of the tracks on the album/tape by the way?
>
>Funny you should ask - I'm adding the "Live in the West" to the FAQ -
>here's the entry that will be in the next revision (due out in August, I
>hope):
>
>*Live In The West*  (Also known as *BOC In The West* - Soundboard
>Recording, Tape Only)
>
>1.  Stairway To The Stars
>2.  O.D.'d On Life Itself
>3.  Harvester Of Eyes
>4.  Flaming Telepaths
>5.  Dominance And Submission
>6.  The Subhuman
>7.  7 Screaming Diz-Busters
>8.  Astronomy
>9.  Cities On Flame With Rock And Roll
>10. Buck's Boogie
>11. Hot Rails To Hell
>12. Maserati GT
>
>Notes:  Strictly speaking, this is not a "bootleg", but a live tape.
>What distinguishes it from other BOC live tapes is that this recording
>was produced by the band (actually by soundman George Geranios) and
>circulated among family and friends.  It was created from shows done
>during a week in July of 1975, in Washington, Oregon and California, and
>has been traded extensively by fans since that time.  It is perhaps most
>noted for it's version of "7 Screaming Diz-Busters" which features an
>extended "rap" by Eric telling the story of selling his soul to the
>Devil to become a rock star, and forseeing his future in a nursing home
>for old rock stars when the Devil comes calling for his soul.  This
>track, along with "O.D.'d On Life Itself" were released by
>Columbia/Legacy on the *Tyranny And Mutation* re-master as bonus tracks.
>
>
> > the limo man kept on driving,
>
>Don't you just LOVE this track?!?!
>
>
> > Although I can somewhat understand it, I have to put up a (small)
>protest to
> > the slagging Mirrors occasionally takes here. Sure, it's got its share
>of
> > dogs (Dr. Music) and somewhat boring stuff (Moon Crazy, Lonely
>Teardrops),
> > but The Great Sun Jester is definitely one of my all-time favorite BOC
> > pieces, The Vigil is likewise great, I am the Storm is pretty good, and
>I
> > really like In Thee, which I take at face value as a completely
>non-ironic
> > statement and love it for both its sentiment and its presentation.
> > Admittedly the album is a very mixed bag, but the good tracks here are
> > really good, in several different ways. Maybe the fact that they seem to
>be
> > all over the place turns people off? Or is it that this was too 'pop'-py
>an
> > album?
>
>
>Sigh - anytime Mirrors, Revolution By Night, or (esp.) Club Ninja gets
>degraded in any way (even if IN JEST!!!), someone always rushes to its
>defense.  There IS good stuff on the album - even the tracks you
>mentioned not liking (Dr. Music, Moon Crazy, Lonely Teardrops) are
>enjoyable to me - but as a whole the album has its problems.  Bolle has
>said that Mirrors nearly singlehandedly destroyed the fanclub in the 70s
>- not his words, but he did say that the "membership" dropped WAY off
>after Mirrors came out.
>
>
> >
> > > As for rejected songs being lesser than songs that make an album, that
> > > is not always the case.  There are any number of reasons a song
> > > might be dropped from an album.  Sometimes the song just doesn't
> > > quite fit in with the rest of the songs...so no matter how good it
> > > is, it gets cut.  This happened fairly frequently with Jethro Tull,
> > > for instance...
>
>"Boorman the Chauffer" is a great example, IMHO.


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