HW: Service time league table

[Jon Jarrett]

On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Doug Pearson wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 03:48:30 +0100, J D <Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK> wrote:
> > Has anybody ever compiled a league table of "service time in HW"?
>
> There's the personnel list that just gives the years that certain people
> were involved in the band ...

        Which is roughly what I aimed at, now corrected in the light of
the information Doug kindly appended below, which I *id* read before I
replied to the original message, but by the time I did that had forgot
he'd included. You follow me? No matter. Anyway, one or two petty
quibbles:

> >> Rob Heaton
> *1* gig (Stonehenge '83), and part of the 'Earth Ritual Preview' EP; I
> think we may have a winner!

        Steve Taylor scores lower with just one gig, I believe, the Ones
Who Are Left performance; but, on the other and, wasn't that one track on
the ERP, `Night of the Hawks', actually from the Stonehenge gig?

> >> Steve Bemand
> He should probably be treated as a guest, not a member.  Like Dumpy, Arthur
> Brown, Samantha Fox, etc.

        Dammit, I'd forgotten Dumpy. And moreover I don't have this
document Doug is citing so if anyone wants to tell me wat dates Bemand and
Dumpy were around between I'd be most grateful.

> >> Clive Deamer
> 42 gigs (3/84-6/85), no studio time

        I thought he drummed on CotBS (which I don't yet have, sorry,
here's my badge)? If not, who did? Danny T.?

> also:
> Mick Slattery - studio demo, 19 gigs (8/69-1/70)
> John Harrison - first album, 58 gigs (8/69-6/70)
> Dave Anderson - XiSoS (of course!), but a mere 58 gigs (4/71-8/71)
> Paul Rudolph - ASAM, 80 gigs (5/75-12/76)
> Adrian Shaw - Quark, PXR5, 79 gigs (2/77-3/78)
> Paul Hayles - no studio, 15 gigs (3/78) plus 1 as Sonic Assassins 12/77

        Really 03/78? Only I thougt he was part of the revived Hawkwind
after the failure of the Hawklords venture, which was ongoing till nearly
the end of that year surely?

> Steve Swindells - Hawklords, 40 gigs (1/78-11/78)
> Tim Blake - Levitation, 40 gigs (9/79-10/80)
> Ginger Baker - Levitation, 46 gigs (10/80-2/81)
> Keith Hale - no studio, 34 gigs (10/80-2/81)

        Again, here, are you sure? That leaves only a month for Blake and
Baker to be on _Levitation_ in... Also, Hale got some studio time in as we
have `Dangerous Visions' to prove...

> Andy Anderson - no studio, 8 gigs (2/83)
> John Clark - drums on 'Earth Ritual Preview', no gigs
> Fred Reeves - no studio, 38 gigs (6/83-7/84)

        Didn't realise he was in that long! How come he managed to escape
being recorded even live? Mischance (or chance)?

> Rick Martinez - no studio, 17 gigs (2/84-3/84)
> Paul Cobbold - studio engineer, played percussion on CotBS, no gigs

        Um, Dave Charles surely? (And is that the same Dave Charles wom
the Manband archive pages claim has played in every Man-connected band but
never Man itself? Because if so that would make connected Man and Hawkwind
by personnel much easier than it currently seems to be). I think you're
thinking of Cobbold's guest slot on _Out and Intake_.

> Mick Kirton - no studio, 9 gigs (8/88-10/88)

        Did Chadwick officially arrive in 1988 then? Or was the drum stool
vacant till next year?

> Bridget Wishart - 83(!) gigs (6/89-4/91)

        That is truly impressive. Where did the band suddenly acquire
energy from?

> Crum - 33 gigs (10/97-11/97) plus 10 gigs (Agents of Chaos) in 88/89

        Also around in 1988/1989. no? Or am I only dreaming?

> Rizz - 47(at most?) gigs (7/97-3/01)

        And that's 47 too many. Actually, even I wouldn't have removed him
from stage for `Keeper of the Reptoid'. But still. Since then,
unforgivable.

> I guess it's a safe bet that Dave, Nik, Huw, DikMik, Del, Lemmy, Calvert,
> Simons House & King, Al Powell, Harvey, Martin Griffin, Alan, Danny,
> Richard & Ron (16 different people!) each has over 100 Hawkwind gigs under
> his belt (Jerry slips in at slightly under 100 if you count the Agents of
> Chaos gigs, slightly over 80 if you don't) ...

        The number of gigs Brock must have played is scary to contemplate.

> Someone else can do the math for "length-of-tenure".  Obviously very
> different results, since Ron Tree didn't play very many more gigs with
> Hawkwind in six YEARS than Thom Crimble did with Hawkwind in six MONTHS.

        And that's just shameful really. Anyhow, informations updated,
cheers, yours,
               Jon

Damn! music stopped again. Jethro Tull's _Benefit_ on shiny remaster CD I
think.
--
"I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine
law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient
to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the
delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D.

             (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London)