FAO Hawkwind Band: NikWar Spam

[mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK]

hmmmm.......

no mention of the dodgy bootleg quality hawkwind recordings licensed from
dave anderson. Does any ex members of hawkwind get royalties from them i
wonder?

I noticed dave andersons name is lined up with all the other ex-hawkwind
members that are taking dave brock to court.

seems a bit hypocritical to me......

also i'm getting a bit sick of constantly reading the quote "the spirit of
Barney Bubbles and Robert Calvert" and that Nik Turner is doing it for the
fans. When really hes not doing it for us fans at all and its really all
about money......

Colm

On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:42:52 +0100, M Holmes <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK> wrote:

>I received this rather depressing mail 9/8/2002.  The gist of it is that
>Nik seems to be suing to prevent Dave from using the name Hawkwind or
>any of the songs featuring various ex-members including Moorcock,
>Calvert and Lemmy.  I guess the war isn't survived quite yet.  Could Nik
>really prevent Hawkwind from playing classic numbers? That's be quite
>depressing to me.  Also I guess Moorcock is off the latest project.
>
>Note that the text I received was rather badly formatted, punctuated,
>and CAPITALISED. I've tidied it up to save the sensibilities of delicate
>souls here but have been careful not to alter the language lest any
>lawyers need to feed on it.
>
>FoFP
>
>
>
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>
>Press Release 08/08/2002 "without prejudice".
>
>Original Hawkwind members including Lemmy from Motorhead,
>science-fiction writer Mike Moorcock[see message from mike moorcock to
>hawkwind fans further down], Nik Turner and a score of others line up in
>court case against Dave Brock - About Brock's Destruction of the
>Hawkwind Reputation and Brock's issuing of cd albums featuring early
>members of Hawkwind and not paying royalties to or seeking permission of
>those "Golden Years Of Hawkwind" members.
>
>It started at Glastonbury Festival 2002- Thursday 27th June 2002 Nik
>Turner and his eight month old band Xhawkwind.com [now had to change it
>temporarily to spaceritual.net] (Featuring original members from the
>1970's: - Mick Slattery - Guitar, Thomas Crimble - Bass, Terry Ollis -
>Drums,[the band also often features other original 70s members Del
>Dettmar noise generators/synths, Dave Anderson - Bass + Guitar and Ron
>Tree- 90's Hawkwind member - Bass + Poetry/Vocals) are just sound
>checking as the first band to play on a stage at Glastonbury 2002[they
>played in a big top crammed with around 1000 people and more were
>listening outside the big top] and Nik receives an injunction from Dave
>Brock trying to force Nik not to use any variation of the word Hawkwind
>- Niks original Nickname from before the band was called that!!!!!.
>
>Dave Brock also bombarded the internet asking people to ask for their
>ticket money back if they had bought tickets thinking it was Hawkwind at
>Guildford Festival and not Nik Turner's XHawkwind.com-after the
>Guildford Festival had finished a journalist rang up Guildford Festival
>and asked how many people had asked for refunds because XHawkwind.com
>had been substituted for Hawkwind [owing to Dave Brock insisting on more
>costs to the Festival as the event drew nearer]THE TOTAL NUMBER OF
>PEOPLE WHO ASKED GUILFORD FESTIVAL FOR A REFUND ON THEIR TICKETS AS PER
>DAVE BROCK'S MASSIVE INTERNET CAMPAIGN WAS -NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>By the 5th of August 2002 this had turned into a legal battle between
>all the Hawkwind 70's Stalwarts on one side and Dave Brock (Who had
>registered Hawkwind as a trade mark without telling all the golden years
>members of the band) so the following ex- Hawkwind members are now
>pursuing Dave Brock about "Dave Brock "Related" Bootlegs" and
>non-payments of royalties:
>
>Lemmy, Michael Moorcock, Nik Turner, the estate of the Late Barney
>Bubbles, the estate of the late Robert Calvert, Terry Ollis, Steve
>Swindells, Harvey Bainbridge, Paul Rudolph, Alan Powell, Adrian Shaw,
>Dave Anderson, Thomas Crimble, Mick Slattery, Dik Mik and Del Dettmar.
>
>Space Ritual.Net Featuring Original Ex-Hawkwind members
>
>Nik Turner-sax,flute,vocals, Terry Ollis-drums,Thomas Crimble-bass
>guitar,Dave Anderson-bass guitar and guitar,Mick Slattery-guitar plus
>various special guests appear at Canterbury
>Festival[www.canterburyfayre.com] on Friday 23rd August 5pm also on that
>day are Ozric Tentacles ,Fish,and Kevin Ayers
>
>For those of you who missed this band at Glastonbury or Guildford
>Festivals in the last month or two or who are disappointed at Dave
>Brock's Hawkwind pulling their gig at War Of The Worlds Heaton Park
>Manchester here is an opportunity to see a band of Ex-Hawkwind members
>performing classic Hawkwind material at a great festival.  For more info
>on Canterbury Fayre visit their website at www.canterburyfayre.com
>Please note the band "Space Ritual.Net" is not Dave Brock's Hawkwind but
>does create on stage the spirit of the 70's Hawkwind ethos and invokes
>the spirit of Barney Bubbles and Robert Calvert.
>
>Also a fund raising benefit for the legal action by Nik Turner is to be
>held on Friday 8th November at the Mean Fiddler Charing Cross Road
>London. Doors open at 7pm and will feature Space Ritual.Net and ex
>members of Hawkwind and members of the Hawkestra and Inner City Unit and
>Tractor plus compere mothership control Andy Dunkley and other special
>guests to be announced .the event is to be known as one of the legendary
>Greasy Truckers Party. In fact it is the 30th anniversary Greasy Truckers
>Party.
>
>>> Messages from Michael Moorcock about the dispute with Dave Brock
>>> [said"without prejudice"]:
>
>>> This is to confirm that I have not received any royalties or payments
>>> from any of the Hawkwind albums issued by Dave Brock.  It has been
>>> very obvious for some years that Dave has, wherever possible, removed
>>> the work of writers like myself and Bob Calvert from reissued albums
>>> and has generally behaved in a an unethical way.  While I have been
>>> generally silent on these matters, since I have respected the idealism
>>> of the fans, for instance, it has been obvious for many years that
>>> Dave has been as it were feathering his own nest at the expense of the
>>> other members of the band, especially the best known members of
>>> Hawkwind.  He has continued to put bands together which he has called
>>> 'Hawkwind' which are in fact only him and various new musicians
>>> (though I know this has not always been the case) and has clearly run
>>> the band as his own property, without reference to other founder
>>> members or, indeed, holders of copyright material.  The reason I am
>>> speaking now is because I believe Dave has behaved unethically in
>>> bringing an injunction against you for using the name xhawkwind --
>>> which, it is well known, is not an attempt to pose as Hawkwind but to
>>> let audiences know that a band comprised of many ex-members of the
>>> band, several of whom I have worked with, is making an appearance.
>>> Given Dave's own behaviour in these matters, I write to assure that
>>> any kind words I might have used many years ago about Dave Brock are
>>> no longer verified by his more recent actions.  Please use this letter
>>> however it suits you and, should you need further help or confirmation
>>> in this matter, please let me know how I can help.
>
>>> With all best wishes,
>
>>> Mike Moorcock
>
>
>>> 2nd message from Mike Moorcock "Without Prejudice"To Nik Turner and
>>> The Xhawkwind members:
>
>>> Fuck Dave, then.  He'd sent me something to do with him, a record for
>>> some lyrics, but he can fuck himself.  You know that I'll always side
>>> with you when things get to this point.  If you want to include me in
>>> the band formerly known as xhawkwind.com/spaceritual.net as some sort
>>> of member.  Whatever you think, pard.  I have not just extolled Dave's
>>> virtues.  I've said elsewhere that he was manipulative and greedy.  So
>>> you can always pull those references, should it go that way.  Sod the
>>> bastard.  He has also, of course, removed almost everything by me and
>>> Calvert from reissues, Seems wicked to pull Calvert, Bottom line is
>>> pard, if it's between you[Nik Turner] and Dave Brock- Mr Greed, I'm on
>>> your side Nik.
>
>>> Mike Moorcock
>
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