HW: Brock's Destruction of Hawkwind Reputation
Michael W Blackman
Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM
Sun Aug 11 06:19:33 EDT 2002
Ahhhhhhhhhhh fuck all this shit!! lets all just drop some ACID and try to find our way to stonehenge!!!
WHOS IN???!!??? LOL
((I might be late))
In a message dated Sun, 11 Aug 2002 06:30:57 AEDT, "f. rat" <hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK> writes:
> Bryan Young wrote:
> >
> > f rat wrote:
>
> > > Personally, I think Dave should grow up a little, after all XHawkwind
> > > perfectly describes the state of the musicians (nothing derogatory
> > > intended) inasmuch as it seems they have all been at one time or
> > > another, members of the great Hawkwind crew.
> >
> > I guess if I worked at McDonalds for a few years, then I could open a
> > restaurant called xMcDonalds and sell xBig xMacs, too. And tell Ronald
> > McDonald to grow up for having a problem with it. And there's thousands of
> > xMcDonald's workers who would probably join my cause and offer me verbal
> > support. That should make it right!
>
> I think a few more people have worked in McDonalds over the years and
> made a wee bit less of a contribution individually to the whole
> "concept" of McDonalds than ex-members of Hawkwind such as Uncle Nik
> have to the band.
>
> F. Rat
>
> Question those motives -- imagine including a guy just because he gives
> you
> > another bullet in your gun, and not because of any musical merits. And then
> > see who's holding the gun, and it's Nik, isn't it?
>
> Somewhat gruesome and I fear a little Paranoid imagery coming across
> here Bryan.
>
> F. Rat
>
> > And why do you tell Dave to get busy with songwriting? I agree that I want
> > a new album that is better than the last few, but how much energy has Nik
> > put into songwriting lately? When will you ever get a new song from the
> > xHawkwind crew? I think that if you want new material, then you'd be
> > arguing for Nik to end this debacle so that Dave can get on with what he
> > does best and what he's done for the past 33 years -- creating music.
> > Dave's creative output over the last 20 years makes Nik's output from the
> > same time period seem awful insignificant indeed.
> >
> > > and the musical excellence we all know and love. The fact they still
> >
> > Terry Ollis is very excellent musically. I remember reading in Kris Tait's
> > book how he fell off his drum kit and couldn't keep a steady rhythm, so they
> > added another drummer (Simon King I believe), and had two drummers for
> > awhile. So, yeah, Nik should definitely have Terry Ollis in the band, as
> > he's obviously the finest drummer Hawkwind has ever had, and that will
> > continue the fine tradition of musical excellence. (Sarcasm mode now ends.)
>
> Like whoa yerself dude, where's the humour - an integral part of the
> Hawkwind "ethos" wouldn't cha say (Flying Doctor, Quark Strangeness &
> Charm, Needle Gun, Reefer Madness etc etc etc b;laah b;laah etc)
>
> F. Rat
>
>
> > Now, before I close, how about a fictional scenario? I'll assume that you
> > know your Motorhead lore, and let me make a parallel if I may:
> >
> > It's apparent that Fast Eddie has no career anymore. He had a moment with
> > Fastway, but that's in the past.
> > So here's the fiction: Suppose Fast Eddie starts up a Motorhead band.
> > That's the one name that will allow him to get a gig. And he could get any
>
> But shurely that's "Motorhead" NOT "XMotorhead".
>
> If people are as Mr Brock states "likely to be confused" by the title
> XHawkwind, maybe they didn't get any GC(S)Es in mathematics or English -
> like not only are the two names spelled differently, they each begin
> with a different letter and have a different number of characters in
> them.
>
> When Hawkwind start dumbing down that's a sign to get worried I think -
> not known for having a thick fanbase I believe!!!
>
> F. Rat
>
>
>
> > Peace and Hawkwind, and lots of Motorhead! And to the author, F. Rat, I
> > meant nothing personal to you, but I did feel compelled to address several
> > key points of your argument, and I hope that this was constructive.
> >
> > Bryan Young
> > Saskatchewan, Canada
>
> Okay Bryan thanks for your comments but my point is that Dave seems to
> be losing his sense of humour over this a little, however (grin, grin)
> it makes me wonder whether the whole furore is in fact a publicity
> raising exercise which will in the long run benefit both camps. Cynic I
> may be but I'm sure Nik and Dave are no strangers to playing "fast and
> dirty" the odd time.
>
> Pax Vobiscum Motorus Maximus
>
> F. Rat.
>
>
> > > Pax vocum ballisticum
> > >
> > > F. Rat
> > >
> > > P.S. May I still direct readers to
> > >
> > > http://www.fatrat.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rat
> > >
> > > for my cover of Motorhead, entirely recorded on my humble PC and a
> > > couple of toons of my own.
> > >
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