HW: Damned by the curse of Damned

[Jonathan Jarrett]

On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 06:06:36AM +0000, Nick Medford typed out:
> In message <20020120011659.A7825 at chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
> Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK> writes
> >
> >Link the following to Hawkwind (playing either the shortest- or
> >lengthiest-link version, the link must have some creative input so
> >producers count but support acts don't, cover versions isn't good enough,
> >all other niggles to be settled arbitrarily by me as much as anyone... )

        And Nick manages to do almost all of them without using any of the
connections I was thinking of, well almost :-)

> >1. Thin Lizzy
>
> Brian Robertson's stint with  Motorhead, 'nuff said
>
> Also a link through Phil Collins, see under Genesis below

        And Snowy White played with TL, also in Michael Moorcock's Deep
Fix for _New World's Fair_ (and of course with Dave Gilmour and Pink Floyd
as addressed below).

> >2. Deep Purple
>
> 1. Richie Blackmore- Rainbow- Bobby Rondinelli- BOC- Moorcock-
> HW
>
> 2. Rainbow- Cozy Powell- ELP (in the brief period in the 80s when it
> was Powell rather than Palmer)- Greg Lake- King Crimson- Robert
> Fripp- David Bowie- Simon House
> (see below for other Fripp links)
>
> 3. David Coverdale- Coverdale/Page- Led Zep- Roy Harper- HW
> (either via Floyd, or Harper's playing with Huw, or Harper's brief intro
> on "Do Not Panic", etc.)

        That was the one I was thinking of, but I like 2 better and really
should have thought of 1.

> >3. Chrome
>
> Helios Creed playing with Nik
> >
> >B. More obscure
> >
> >4. Genesis
>
> Hmmm... Brian Eno involvement on both Genesis "The Lamb Lies Down
> on Broadway" and Calvert's "Lucky Lief and the Longships"

        That short-circuits what I was after, that both Collins and Paul
Rudolph are on Eno albums (are they both on _Taking Tiger Mountain by
Strategy?_

> Robert Fripp has played with Peter Gabriel (on PG's second solo
> album)... Fripp has also played with Bowie, another member of Bowie's
> band at that time was one Simon House

        Blimey. _Stage_ is becoming an essential purchase.

> Phil Collins guests on Thin Lizzy's "Johnny the Fox" album, see Lizzy
> link above

        And back again through Snowy White...

> Phil Collins (him again) played with the surviving members of Led Zep
> at Live Aid, thus standard Zep- Roy Harper- HW link
>
> After Steve Hackett left Genesis, his backing band had a keyboard player
> called Nick Magnus, who had briefly been a member of the Enid... HW
> and the Enid both appear on the Stonehenge '84 video, and one of the
> Enid's ex-members was in HW for about a nanosecond I think (Robbie
> Dobson??)

        Not sure about that one...

> >5. The MC5
>
> Wayne Kramer playing with Mick Farren's Deviants
>
> Or the long way round... Wayne Kramer playing in Mad for the Racket
> with Brian James, once of the Damned (them again)- thus opening up the
> billion or so Damned-HW links as exhaustively discussed here before

        Him and the Pink Fairies/Deviants nexus was what I had in mind.

> >6. Pink Floyd (okay, there are several ways to do this; if you can get
> >more than three have a bonus point)
>
> 1. Through Roy Harper as above (sang on Floyd's "Have A Cigar", Dave
> Gilmour plays on his "Unknown Soldier" album, etc.)
>
> 2. Syd Barrett's short-lived post-Floyd band Stars, which included
> Twink on drums- standard Fairies/Hawks links
>
> 3. Roger Waters' most recent backing band included Snowy White, who
> has played in a band with Huw (Blue Zone?).. I think.. if not, White was
> a member of Thin Lizzy (them again)- see above

        Ah, you knew it already...

> 4. Roger Waters' first post-Floyd band (Pros and Cons of Hitch-Hiking
> album and tour) included Eric Clapton, who was in Cream with one
> Ginger Baker

        Didn't know that.

> 5. Nick Mason produced the Damned's "Music for Pleasure" album (the
> Damned broke up for the first of many times during its recording and
> subsequently disowned the resulting mess)- Damned-HW links as before

        He also produced Steve Hillage's _Green_ so you can link through
Gong; that, Stars and the fact that Dave Giomour mixed the `Kerb Crawler'
single were my favourites for inclusion here.

> >C. Really quite surprising
> >
> >7. Mountain
>
> I'll have to pass here, I wouldn't know a member of Mountain if I saw
> one busking on my doorstep. (did they do "Nantucket Sleighride"?)

        They did, and Leslie West their guitarist was in a band called
West Bruce and Laing with a bandmate from Mountain and one Jack Bruce, who
is one away from HW via the estimable Mr Baker of course...

> >8. Therapy?
>
> No idea. This is a band for Young People, I think you only mention them
> to taunt us with your youth. Although they did do a passable cover of Joy
> Division's "Isolation".

        I stuck this in so as to be sure of there being one only I would
know but was confuted :-) The link I was thinking of being that
undeservedly unknown stoner outfit Clucth (in how many ways do they
transcend that genre? Quite a few I can tell you) had a song on their last
album written by and featuring Leslie West of Mountain linked as above,
and their guitarist and vocalist were on the last Therapy? album. Which
was four removes so I was quite pleased with that. Of course it got
shortcircuited by their working with Ozzy.

> >9. The Jimi Hendrix Experience (no, Lemmy roadying for them doesn't count,
> >nor does Nik getting complimented by Jimi from the stage and in any case
> >that wasn't the Experience... )
>
> Terry Ollis has played with Noel Redding I believe. I know Terry O. is
> in a band called Little Wing, so I'd guess that's the connection.
> Alternatively it could have been in Road or Fat Mattress.

        I don't think Ollis has played with Redding. However, Mitch
Mitchell has played in the same band as Jack Bruce, that being, um, oh,
underbruce's name in 1971.

> >10. Tangerine Dream (to get the point you need *two* independent
> >connections)
>
> Well... I'll save this one for more serious thought. But I fear my TD
> knowledge may be insufficient.

        The answers can be revealed, although we already got several. The
ones I was thinking of were:

        firstly, Klaus Schulze who was on the first Tangerine dream album
has a solo album which features Arthur Brown, who has of course performed
with HW but if that isn't enough co-wrote and sang on `The Song of the
Gremlin' on _Captain Lockheed_.

        secondly, and this no-one seems to know about, on the current TD
website at I think <http://www.tadream.de> there is a short biography of
the band, by Edgar Froese (who ought to know, if not remember). It says
there that initial TD line-ups, before the first album, were open to
whoever turned up in the loft for that jam. Among people of note who did
this he names... Nik Turner. One remove.

> Meanwhile... can you (or anyone else) link HW with the following...
>
> The Who
> Weather Report
> The Moody Blues

        Instantly, no I can't. And I can't remember whether other people
did, and anyway I have a bit of mail to answer :-)

> and if you want improbable links, try these:
>
> Saxon
> Montrose
> Leo Sayer

        that one, easy, Huw played with him in the 70s (never been quiet
sure when though, 1975?)

        The rest I leave to better obessionals than myself... Yours,
                                                                     Jon

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