HW: Mr Beardy's Quim

[Richard Lockwood]

You've a point about what I heard not being a truly representitive sample -
I *will* give them another go, honest.

However, you've somewhat misinterpreted my other point - or maybe I just
phrased it badly..  :-)  What I meant was that I felt it was *too* close to
sounding like Hawkwind for me to think "Hey, these guys are really doing
something new in the field of space rock."  (I don't normally talk like that
BTW!)  It just came across more as "slavishly copying" rather than "being
inspired by".

Sadly my budget doesn't allow me to go out and buy shed loads of CDs just on
the off chance that they might be OK, or that I might find one track that I
love on an album full of dross - that's why I like the tape/CD loops so
much.  You get recommendations, rather than just picking a track at random.
For all I know, the MQB tracks I heard could be completely unrepresentitive
of the band.

Like I said, I'll attempt to get hold of a few more tracks, and, you never
know, I might end up changing my opinion completely and parting with actual
cash.  (And from a Yorkshireman, that's praise indeed...)  :-)

Cheers,

Rich.



> but in your original post you said
> >If I'd never heard
> > Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic
>
> Implying that that only reason you didn't enjoy this band was that they
were
> to similar to the bands (and style of music) you love.... I bet if say
> Harvey Bainbridge was credited as Keyboard player or if Dave Brock had
> played penny whistle on the 3rd bar of the 2nd verse you'd have loved
> it.........
>
> And if you judge a band solely by listening to a couple of random mp3s (or
a
> bootlegged audience recording) your gonna miss out on some great music
> man... It's like hearing great things about an author or book so you
select
> and read a random chapter of a random book and from that decide although
you
> like what you read, your favourite author has wrote something back in the
> 70s on the same topic, so therefore you'll not bother reading the whole
book
> and just go back and re-read one you've read before.
>
> It's not just MQB or you Richard, it's this every repeated, If it sounds
> anything like HW it's crap (because it isn't HW) and if it doesn't sound
> anything like HW it's crap (because it just isn't HW)...
>
> I hold my hands up and can not deny that Hawkwind are the Godfathers of
> Spacerock and still the best live band I've ever seen but, fortunately for
> Spacerock THERE ARE some good up and coming bands around who will continue
> playing/recording and releasing albums in a similar vein to HW long after
HW
> have called it a day, and fortunately for these bands there is enough of
us
> Spacerock fans out there who are into the music more than the individuals
> who play it, to keep this genre alive.
> Tony Wilson
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Lockwood" <rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:16 AM
> Subject: Re: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim
>
>
> > Hang on a minute...  This is a reply to my original post, which was back
> in
> > January...  :-)  I' m not trying to bring the subject up again!
> >
> > And no, I haven't sat down and listened to any MQB albums - as I said in
> the
> > original post, just some stuff I downloaded from Morpheus (or
somewhere).
> > That's what I mainly use it for.  Someone tells me about a band I might
> > like, I'll download a few traks - if I like them then I'll go  out and
buy
> > the albums.  Nothing I've heard from MQB has made me want to do that
yet.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rich.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Wilson" <twilson at GMX.CO.UK>
> > To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim
> >
> >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:38:15AM -0000, Richard Lockwood typed
out:
> > > > > (I'm going to get a kicking for this one...)
> > > > >
> > > > > After hearing so many good things about Mr Quimby's beard, I've
> > finally
> > > sat
> > > > > down and downloaded some tracks. Hmm.  Splendid.  If I'd never
heard
> > > > > Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe I need to get back to smoking those funny big herbal
> cigarettes
> > > > > (Something I've not done for many a year now) but to me it sounds
> like
> > a
> > > > > bunch of blokes doing a very good Hawkwind impersonation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Emporer's new clothes, or have I missed the point?
> > > >
> > > >         That was more or less the impression they gave at the Forum
> gig,
> > > > but I think there's a shortage of such stuff around so I didn't
really
> > > > mind. The vocal styles are different, I don't think Hawkwind ever
had
> a
> > > > singer that sounded like that, but I'm yet to be sure whether or not
I
> > > > like it... (And I still haven't got any AP so don't know how that
> > > > compares) What it lacks, to me, is the edge that HW seem to have got
> > from
> > > > not really knowing what it was they were doing. So it's as smooth as
> the
> > > > later stuff, _Electric Tepee_ onwards, but has a feel more like
_Live
> > '79_
> > > > in terms of togetherness and structure. Not the ideal combination
> then,
> > > > but still very good. Depends whether you're searching for something
> new
> > or
> > > > you don't mind getting the same trip recycled. I had given up
> expecting
> > > > new things of the British side of the genre until I happened on
> _Return
> > to
> > > > Earth_ by Starfield which is certainly getting there. (I owe Captain
> > Black
> > > > a review still... ) Yours,
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not again............
> > > Is there some kind of competition going on that I've never been told
> > about??
> > > "Hawkwind VS. Every other band....."
> > > Can't you accept that spacerock is a genre of music and not something
> that
> > > belongs solely to Hawkwind, Richard ???
> > >
> > > I know this will win me no friends but AP !!! come on, they've had a
> > couple
> > > of ok'ish albums and the rest of their stuff is just self indulgent
> > dribble
> > > with poorly played synths over the top. And if you're looking for
> > something
> > > new you'll not find it on the Starfield album (which btw I really
like).
> I
> > > don't think I've ever heard a band sound as close to HW as they do
Jon.
> > >
> > > As for Mr Quimby's Beard, have either of you heard any of their albums
> ???
> > I
> > > can't imagine you have or you'd know that they draw from many other
> > musical
> > > influences as well as HW.
> > > I'll put my neck on the line and say.... I think Mr Quimby's Beard are
> > > currently offering more to my favourite genre of music (Spacerock)
than
> > any
> > > other band including Hawkwind (who I've loved for many years), and
that
> > > their album "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of." is the best and
most
> > > complete album I've heard since long before Electric Tepee.
> > > When you see them live as at the forum, supporting someone like
> Hawkwind,
> > it
> > > is unfair to even try to compare the 2 acts, as, the headliner (HW)
will
> > > have all afternoon to sound check (and rehearse) the opener (MQB) will
> be
> > > given (max) 20 mins if any time at all. The headliner is drawing from
a
> > > catalogue of songs which some of us grew up listening to, the opener
is
> > > playing you songs you're hearing for the first time. The headliner has
2
> > > hours to impress, the opener 40 mins. The headliner is performing to a
> > > stoned or drunk audience, the opener to people still arriving and
sober.
> > The
> > > headliner has a full light show to add to the atmosphere and draw you
> in,
> > > the opener has a couple of spot lights (if they are lucky). The
> headliner
> > > has a truck load of  expensive equipment and back ground personnel to
> > ensure
> > > they sound great, the opener has so little room on stage that they are
> > > forced to down scale and use the minimum of equipment......I could
> > > continue.... and they still left a BIG impression on me..
> > > Did anyone here see them Headlining in the states last year ??? If so
> did
> > > they impress or depress ??? :-}
> > > Tony Wilson
> > >
> >
>