HW: Pub meets (was Re: Uk Tour)
Mark Von Bargen
mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK
Thu Nov 21 02:49:14 EST 2002
Eric,
A hopefully short explanation:
The venue is in Wolstenholme Square and the streets mentioned are those that
lead on to the square except Hotham Street which is about a mile away (more
later).
Nation is the building. In the early days of clubbing it was called The
Academy and it was brilliant for a dance music venue. After a couple of
years it became Nation.
A little time later a club night called Cream was started by a couple of
chancers (ticket touts trying to move into a bigger world - it obviously
worked). The Cream nights really took off and soon the place was generally
known as Cream even though the building is still called Nation.
Meanwhile, a little indie music venue started up in a completely different
location. It was called The Lomax.
Typical acts were early Oasis, American hardcore metal bands, The Alarm!!
etc....
Later, The Lomax started a bigger venue called L2 (that was behind the
Empire Theatre where HW have played a few times - this is the Hotham Street
site).
Both the Lomax and the L2 eventually closed down - as most venues do close
down after a while in Liverpool. The Lomax name was incorporated into the
Nation venue (don't know if the original Lomax guys are still involved - if
they are that will be good news as they now how to run a venue pretty well).
So you end up with variations of Lomax at Cream@Nation.
By the way, the Cream nights have now closed down. The crowd numbers dipped
a bit so they decided to get out of Liverpool and move down to London. I
could swear at this point and reveal lots of crappy truth about Cream but it
is BOC-L and I won't.
Versions of this note may disagree with the recently published Cream history
book. That is because I am telling the truth.
Should be a good night; roll on 8th December - don't expect to see much
seating in the venue.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Siegerman" <erics at TELEPRES.COM>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:18 AM
Subject: HW: Pub meets (was Re: Uk Tour)
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:28:22PM -0000, Mark Von Bargen wrote:
> > Anybody going to be at the Liverpool show on 8th December and fancy a
drink b4 the show?
>
> Yeah! Stoke (5th) through to Walthamstow (13th), actually.
> Looking for drinking companions all those days.
>
> Oh, and if anyone up Merseyside way happens to be into Steeleye
> Span, they're playing in Southport on the 7th (night off for HW).
> Right F'ing on! Anyone else interested?
>
> > Or.... with it being at the CREAM venue, perhaps we should be getting
sorted for e's and whizz b4 the show.
>
> Man, is that confusing! Lomaxen 1-2-3; Cream, @ Nation, @
> Courtyard; Wolstenholme Sq, Hotham St., Parr St., Cumberland St;
> two completely different web sites.
>
> Ok, I found a press release stating that Lomax moved from
> Cumberland St. to the Cream/Nation/Hotham-St. location. And
> streetmap.co.uk told me that Wolstenholme Sq and Parr St adjoin.
> But that still leaves Wolstenholme/Parr vs. Hotham St. Could
> someone *please* explain what's up with that?
>
> --
>
> | | /\
> |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com
> | | /
> Lomax (n): A metafictional creature with the head of the Lorax
> and the body of Lummox.
>
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