++++ HW: Covers All Final Call/ Studio album

[Jon Jarrett]

On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Colin J Allen wrote:

> I think that this particular line of discussion should probably end here.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ted Jackson" <tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call
>
> > > On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:23:33 -0500, Mike Montfort
> > > <mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM> wrote:
> > > >YO COLIN!
> > > >
> > > >Does the ban include these types of projects?

        (Sorry, I've lost the attribution for this next paragraph.)

> > > This project doesn't include any recordings of Hawkwind.  You'd have
> > > to ask representatives of the bands in question (many of whom can be
> > > found here).
> > >
> > But if you cover HW tunes, you'd need the writers' permission to use them.
> > Technically, they could charge you for it!

        I'd love to know why Colin felt that he should say
what he did to that. Perhaps it's a joke I'm not getting. It's certainly
not his call to make. Along similar lines...

On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Colin J Allen wrote:
>
> From: Colin J Allen <colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
> Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU
> Subject: Re: Studio Album
>
> Hi Jon,
>
> Replies are in the text.

        I've added indents to make it clear what's mine and what's yours
as by the blessing of Outlook Express 6.0 it has become rather unclear...

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Jarrett" <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Studio Album
> >
> > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Chris Raymond wrote:
> > >
> > >  I copied this from MC:
> > > -------------
> > > FUTURE PLANS: Our current project is ' Destruction of The Death
> > > Generator' which is being written in conjunction with Michael Moorcock.
> > > We have been working in conjunction with both Mike Moorcock and Mike
> > > Butterworth, and we are now in the process of rehearsing the material,
> > > which will hopefully be recorded in the spring. Following rehearsals of
> > > the stage show, the band will tour late summer. The line up will
> > > contain the current nucleus, coupled with some past members who have
> > > featured in the band during the past 30 years, similar to the highly
> > > successful Y2k Hawkestra event at the Brixton Academy. We are also
> > > currently reviewing plans to do another tour of Australia & New
> > > Zealand, maybe later in the year......
> > > ---------------

        Maybe worth my pointing out that this text remains on the
`official source of Hawkwind info' from two years ago. Eternally young,
these plans are.

> >         Colin Allen will of course be best placed to answer this, but
> > that announcement on MC predates Nik's attempt at a second Hawkestra and I
> > think the involving of old members idea has gone by the bye now. Half
> > of them were supposed to be suing for royalties not so long ago if we
> > believe hawkethos, after all, which I'm not saying we do. But Harvey
> > and Simon seem to be keeping their distance at the moment.
>
> Hawkethos was not believeable:).  Harvey is doing solo work at the moment (I
> spoke to him a couple of days ago and he is working on new material).
> Simon's absence from the tour was for real and valid reasons; he will be on
> the album and, all being well, back on stage soon.  I do not think that
> anything on the scale of Hawkwestra will happen but there may well be a few
> surprises.

        So are you saying that there was no suit and that Nik and Chris
Hewitt were making the whole thing up? If you aren't, what are you saying?

> > > So does this mean that here is a studio album that has already been
> > > recorded and about to be released, and then the Death Generator to be
> > > released later in 2003? Sorry to sound unhappy, but I have gotten fat,
> > > old and grey since In your Area was released. Finally, I hope that
> > > when there is a new album to buy, that it will available in stores
> > > instead of just by mailorder.
> >
> >         That last will definitely be down to Colin but I don't think
> > we can criticise him if he's unable to cut into the big distributors'
> > networks. If the band wanted that they shouldn't have fired Doug
> > Smith; whatever else it got them in tems of artistic freedom, it cost
> > them that.
> >
> >         I believe, and would love to be corrected, that the new album
> > which was recently said to be finished, is going to be what's left of
> > the Death Generator concept album from 1998, but since _Spacebrock_ and
> > _Family Tree_ emerged in that time I don't suppose much material
> > existed until quite recently. I await its final emergence, once artwork,
> > mastering, mixing, pressing and finally distribution have finally been
> > sorted out, with very little idea of what to expect because everything
> > that we've seen other than `Strange Fruit' rather relied in Ron on
> > vocals... Whatever it is it will be unexpected.
>
> Unexpected and good:).

        Normally I'd preface something like this with a phrase along the
lines of `I hope you'll forgive me for saying' or some such, but actually
I won't pretend to care. `This album' has been in the works for five
years, in the course of which at least one other notionally `new' Hawkwind
album (_Spacebrock_) has come out thus using up a precious third of the,
what, six at most new tracks we've seen the band play in that time. In
*five years*.

        Furthermore, in that time we've seen, um, at least five people with
previous writing credits leave the band (though none of them were on the
last studio album billed as Hawkwind anyway), and Moorcock at least once
publicly disavow any further involvement with Hawkwind. This bloody album
could hardly get more unexpected. *If* it finally emerges, which I no
longer believe anyone saying, I'm sure some people will think it's good,
but one of the people Brock pays to lie to the fanbase about this is
not going to be the person whose opinion I trust on this. You can safely
let me make up my own mind thanks. Yours,
                                          Jon

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             (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London)