A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind

Colin J Allen colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK
Fri Dec 12 17:56:53 EST 2003


The lastest version of my recording gear (24 track digital) measures about
24"x20"x12" and I can (just) lift it with one hand.  It consists of a Fostex
D2424LV and three Behringer HA8000s as gain controllers all in a Gator case;
if you are coming to the Astoria, come and have a look.

To continue the information:

On returning to base the tracks are dumped onto DVD-RAM disks as wav files
for transfer to the PC for mixing and "fiddling with" in Logic.

Much easier than a large lorry, and cheaper!

Colin


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Law" <dplaw at IC24.NET>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind


> On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:23:57 -0500, Colin J Allen
> <colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote:
>
> >OK, I am baffled by the DVD technicalities but agree on the general
> >uselessness of sensibly priced Windows based video editing tools.
> >
> >On the subject of how I record Hawkwind gigs, the following might be of
> >interest (then again, it might not).
> >
> >Wherever possible, I do 2 recordings:
> >
> >The first is a stereo feed from the mixing desk either direct to a laptop
> >at 16/48 or into two channels of a Fostex D2424LV at 16/48.
> >
> >The second is a multitrack recording into a Fostex D2424LV at 16/48;
> >dependent on circumstances, this may be either a "pure" multitrack with
> >every input recorded to an individual track or there may sometimes be a
> >slight compromise with the drumkit inputs being grouped and taken as a
> >stereo pair.  This is usually OK as Fleece does a lovely drum mix.
> >
> >One of the problems with the stereo feed approach is that certain
> >instruments that are very loud on stage (ie: the amp is turned up to 11)
> do
> >not figure very strongly in the desk mix; this is often the case with
> >Alan's bass or any instrument in Litmus *grin*.  This problem is
> >accentuated in smaller venues, such as the Exeter Phoenix, where there is
> >virtually no bass on the recording from the stereo feed.  This can be
> >overcome by live mixing in another feed from an ambient mic, which also
> has
> >the benefit of providing some crowd noise and general atmosphere.
> >
> >On top of that, there is also a third recording which I sometimes do
which
> >is digital video footage, initially with a stereo input from the desk but
> >with the possibility of replacing this with the mixed multitrack
> recording.
> >
> >Colin
>
> actually i found that pretty interesting, i'm sure that i wasn't alone in
> thinking that live recordings still required some sort of mobile studio,
> some which would arrive on the back of a lorry and often seen parked
> behind venues such as Hammersmith odeon in the 80's, so thanks for the
> insight!
>
> on a totally unrelated thread, Collin mentioned on one of the lists the
> other week that he had tried to get more hawkwind played on the Bruce
> Dickinson freak show on Radio 6, a great station that is unfortunately
> only availible via the net, satelite and cable or DAB digital radio. is he
> or anybody else aware that last week started the show with Motorway City,
> the Levitation version, in it's entirety!
>
> the show can still be accessed from -
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/index.shtml?logo
> one word of warning though, open the radio player first and click on Freak
> zone from there, the link from the main web pages appear to be broken.
> regards
> dave
>



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