OFF: decent US Metal bands

[Paul Gartside]

how about nine inch nails







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>Thanks!
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>I still think it's all a bit plastic.
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>Dont bomb Iraq, Tony Blair has gone mad.
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>See you in the pit maybe  :)    :(   :)
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>On Friday 24 Jan 2003 12:59 am, you wrote:
> > I have to say that after 1990, I began to really question Metallica.
>When I
> > started seeing them on the covers of teeny bopper mags and "Enter
>Sandman"
> > was played to death, it was the beginning of the end of my liking them.
>The
> > mellow songs on the black album are pretty good, but there were no heavy
> > tunes at all. Wherever I May Room was the only good rocker. Never bought
> > it. Then they covered Bob Segar's "Turn The Page"-- YUCK!!
> > Growing up in central Ohio, I grew to hate Bob Segar. That clinched it
>for
> > me.... Then they pulled the "We're artists" thang and went after
>Napster.
> > Some of you may remember my BOC-L response to that by posting the
>article
> > w/ "Metallica Sucks" as the subject.
> >
> > I saw them in February 1984 in Detroit w/ Armored Saint and WASP
>opening.
> > That was killer. I maintain that from their earliest daze until the
>black
> > album, they were a GREAT metal band. But no longer.
> >`
> > And now to your question about decent U.S. metal bands......
> >
> > First: what is heavy metal music?
> >
> > Lemmy has been quoted as saying Motorhead's music is the natural
> > progression of Eddie Cochran - an American.
> >
> > The core of most hard rock and heavy metal is The BLUES - an American
>music
> > form.
> >
> > Was Jimi Hendrix heavy metal?
> >
> > Some may say no, while others may say yes. One thing is for sure, any
>heavy
> > metal or hard rock guitarist that's worth a crap cites Hendrix as a
>major
> > influence. Hendrix was an American!
> >
> > Calling Ratt heavy metal, as you did before is a fucking joke!
> >
> > They sucked as a band, let alone as a heavy metal group.
> >
> > Motley Crue - not the greatest bunch of musicians either. Yeah, they
>have a
> > couple decent tunes on Too Fast For Love and Shout at the Devil. I dig
>the
> > tune Dr. Feelgood. Tommy is a pretty good drummer, but they were better
>at
> > partying than anything else. I just don't see them as a serious group of
> > musicians and not worthy.
> >
> > Kiss - come on dude! Yeah, they are not the best bunch of musicians, but
> > once again - are they truly heavy metal?? Their outfits are heavy metal.
> > Their stage show is heavy metal. But their songs are simplistic 3 chord
> > riffs. They may be responsible for many folks becoming metal heads -
>fans
> > and musicians alike. The song Parasite was thrash for 1975. Creatures of
> > the Night is a great record and so is Kiss Alive. They even went prog on
> > the Elder. They also put on one of the best shows of anybody out there.
> > Period. I guess they might be my guilty pleasure. Who cares?!
> >
> > What about Alice Cooper?? Was his original band heavy metal? Killer is
>dark
> > and full of guitar crunch. So is School's Out. I Love The Dead - now,
> > there's a heavy metal topic for ya. Billion Dollar Babies - they even
> > rip-off Hendrix on one of the tunes on that record. See if you can
>figure
> > out which one..... Find some old video from the early 1970's and watch
>Glen
> > Buxton and Michael Bruce shred!
> > Then Welcome to my Nightmare - Cold Ethyl - another heavy metal topic.
> > Alice Cooper Goes To Hell - simply kickass! After the Coop went through
>the
> > new wave phase in the early 1980's, he went full-on metal w/ the release
>of
> > Constrictor. His stage show is pure heavy metal!
> >
> > But this does not even get into the realm of what many would consider
>U.S.
> > Metal.
> >
> > What about Ministry?
> >
> > I saw them live on January 5, 1990 at the Phantasy Theater in Cleveland,
> > Ohio. The most brutal onslaught of guitars and drums I have EVER
>witnessed.
> > They could chew up many bands all over the world and spit them out!!
>That's
> > metal, right? Lookout for their upcoming relaes and subsequent tour!!
> >
> > The Mind Truly IS A Terrible Thing To Taste. But I need Just One Fix!!
> >
> > Have you ever heard the release by Cleveland's own Destructor: Maximum
> > Destruction??
> >
> > My friends Pat Rabid and Dave Overkill had a kickass metal band!! If
>some
> > fuck would not have stabbed their bassist to death on New Years Eve 1987
>at
> > their very own practice spot, they would have been huge. They never
>could
> > find a good bassist and only did a handful of gigs w/ a new bassist
>before
> > they called a quits.
> > A total shame really :(
> > Still, we had fun w/ their punk band later and some list members know of
> > their collaboration w/ Paul Resnik in Spacecore, who opened for Hawkwind
>at
> > the Empire.
> >
> > If you are a true metal fan and you don't have Maximum Destruction in
>your
> > collection, you better hit the streets!
> >
> > Then theirs the metal seen that erupted in Tampa, Florida. The most
>notable
> > band being Savatage. Power of The Night, Sirens and The Hall of The
> > Mountain King are quintessential metal albums. Unfortunately, the tragic
> > death of their guitarist in a car accident proved to be something they
>just
> > could not rebound from.....
> >
> > Sure.... Ozzy is not an American by birth, but his first band was an
> > American band. Tommy Aldridge on drums - awesome and Randy Rhodes. Tell
>me
> > he was not a great American metal guitarist!
> >
> > There was another California band called Warlord that was also great.
> >
> > In 1978 Hell Razor was formed in Ottawa, Canada. The band consisted of
>John
> > Ricci (guitars), Dan Beehler (drums) and Allan Johnson (bass). In 1980,
> > they changed their name to Exciter and recorded a demo. This demo was
>sent
> > to Mike Varney of Shrapnel Records, who included one song from it,
>"World
> > War III", on the compilation album US Metal Volume II in 1982. Shortly
> > after that  Exciter was signed to Shrapel Records and in 1983 they
>released
> > their debut LP, Heavy Metal Maniac. Later that year  signed a
>3-record-deal
> > with John Zazula's Mega Force Records and 1984 they released their
>second
> > album, Violence & Force. This album was recorded in New York and
>produced
> > by Carl Canedy (The Rods - another good metal band).
> >
> > So Exciter might not be a U.S. Metal band per se. But they buttered
>their
> > bread right here and released records on U.S. metal record labels that
> > started the resurgence of metal across the globe. Exciter is STILL going
>to
> > this day! Long Live The Loud!!!
> >
> > There were plenty of other U.S. metal bands represented on the Shrapnel
>and
> > Megaforce labels.
> >
> > Then there's the bands mentioned earlier.....
> >
> > Megadeth - Rust In Peace - killer
> > Anthrax - Fistful of Metal, Spreading The Disease, The Sound of White
>Noise
> > Exodus
> > Nuclear Assault
> > Death Angel
> > Manowar - first release, Sign of the Hammer, Into Glory Ride
> > Corrosion of Conformity
> > Slayer - the name says it all!!
> > Queensryche - Operation Mind Crime - a masterpiece!
> > Alice in Chains - fuck grunge - these guys were metal
> > Blue Cheer - early metal
> > Bloodrock
> > Trouble - their first 3 releases were great!
> > Monster Magnet - yeah, they ARE metal!
> > WASP
> > Armored Saint
> > Ted Nugent
> > Primus
> > Great White
> > Dream Theater
> > Riot - Fire Down Under!!
> > Guns & Roses - despise them, but many disagree
> > Soundgarden
> > Biohazard
> >
> > How many guys in Halford's band are Americans?
> >
> > Come on man.....
> >
> > Let's get.....
> >
> > INTO THE PIT!!!
> >
> > Dragon Rider
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Fagin [mailto:vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: OFF: Other bands
> >
> >
> > Can you name any decent US Metal bands?
> >
> > I think Metallica are the only one really, we met them in 1984 at
>Shades,
> > (Metal shop in soho, London W1)  remember that? Anyway, I thought they
>were
> > a
> > bunch of c***ts apart from Cliff Burton who was terrific, RIP.


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