OFF: decent US Metal bands

[Ben Fagin]

I remember them! My grandmother used to send me the models. Dash 9s are pretty
good, but the old ones are always best from an Enthusiasts point of view. :)



On Friday 24 Jan 2003 9:32 am, you wrote:
> I prefer Burlington Northern myself. Now BNSanta Fe.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Fagin" <vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:15 PM
> Subject: Re: OFF: decent US Metal bands
>
> > What about those Union Pacific Railroads? that was top notch US Metal
> > imo,
>
> can
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> > someone tell me about those or is this off on a tangent too far?
> >
> > On Friday 24 Jan 2003 12:59 am, you wrote:
> > > I have to say that after 1990, I began to really question Metallica.
>
> When I
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> > > started seeing them on the covers of teeny bopper mags and "Enter
>
> Sandman"
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> > > was played to death, it was the beginning of the end of my liking them.
>
> The
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> > > mellow songs on the black album are pretty good, but there were no
> > > heavy tunes at all. Wherever I May Room was the only good rocker. Never
> > > bought it. Then they covered Bob Segar's "Turn The Page"-- YUCK!!
> > > Growing up in central Ohio, I grew to hate Bob Segar. That clinched it
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> for
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> > > me.... Then they pulled the "We're artists" thang and went after
>
> Napster.
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> > > Some of you may remember my BOC-L response to that by posting the
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> article
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> > > w/ "Metallica Sucks" as the subject.
> > >
> > > I saw them in February 1984 in Detroit w/ Armored Saint and WASP
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> opening.
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> > > That was killer. I maintain that from their earliest daze until the
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> black
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> > > album, they were a GREAT metal band. But no longer.
> > >
> > > And now to your question about decent U.S. metal bands......
> > >
> > > First: what is heavy metal music?
> > >
> > > Lemmy has been quoted as saying Motorhead's music is the natural
> > > progression of Eddie Cochran - an American.
> > >
> > > The core of most hard rock and heavy metal is The BLUES - an American
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> music
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> > > form.
> > >
> > > Was Jimi Hendrix heavy metal?
> > >
> > > Some may say no, while others may say yes. One thing is for sure, any
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> heavy
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> > > metal or hard rock guitarist that's worth a crap cites Hendrix as a
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> major
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> > > influence. Hendrix was an American!
> > >
> > > Calling Ratt heavy metal, as you did before is a fucking joke!
> > >
> > > They sucked as a band, let alone as a heavy metal group.
> > >
> > > Motley Crue - not the greatest bunch of musicians either. Yeah, they
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> have a
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> > > couple decent tunes on Too Fast For Love and Shout at the Devil. I dig
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> the
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> > > tune Dr. Feelgood. Tommy is a pretty good drummer, but they were better
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> at
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> > > partying than anything else. I just don't see them as a serious group
> > > of musicians and not worthy.
> > >
> > > Kiss - come on dude! Yeah, they are not the best bunch of musicians,
> > > but once again - are they truly heavy metal?? Their outfits are heavy
> > > metal. Their stage show is heavy metal. But their songs are simplistic
> > > 3 chord riffs. They may be responsible for many folks becoming metal
> > > heads -
>
> fans
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> > > and musicians alike. The song Parasite was thrash for 1975. Creatures
> > > of the Night is a great record and so is Kiss Alive. They even went
> > > prog on the Elder. They also put on one of the best shows of anybody
> > > out there. Period. I guess they might be my guilty pleasure. Who
> > > cares?!
> > >
> > > What about Alice Cooper?? Was his original band heavy metal? Killer is
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> dark
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> > > and full of guitar crunch. So is School's Out. I Love The Dead - now,
> > > there's a heavy metal topic for ya. Billion Dollar Babies - they even
> > > rip-off Hendrix on one of the tunes on that record. See if you can
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> figure
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> > > out which one..... Find some old video from the early 1970's and watch
>
> Glen
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> > > Buxton and Michael Bruce shred!
> > > Then Welcome to my Nightmare - Cold Ethyl - another heavy metal topic.
> > > Alice Cooper Goes To Hell - simply kickass! After the Coop went through
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> the
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> > > new wave phase in the early 1980's, he went full-on metal w/ the
> > > release
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> of
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> > > Constrictor. His stage show is pure heavy metal!
> > >
> > > But this does not even get into the realm of what many would consider
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> U.S.
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> > > Metal.
> > >
> > > What about Ministry?
> > >
> > > I saw them live on January 5, 1990 at the Phantasy Theater in
> > > Cleveland, Ohio. The most brutal onslaught of guitars and drums I have
> > > EVER
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> witnessed.
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> > > They could chew up many bands all over the world and spit them out!!
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> That's
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> > > metal, right? Lookout for their upcoming relaes and subsequent tour!!
> > >
> > > The Mind Truly IS A Terrible Thing To Taste. But I need Just One Fix!!
> > >
> > > Have you ever heard the release by Cleveland's own Destructor: Maximum
> > > Destruction??
> > >
> > > My friends Pat Rabid and Dave Overkill had a kickass metal band!! If
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> some
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> > > fuck would not have stabbed their bassist to death on New Years Eve
> > > 1987
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> at
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> > > their very own practice spot, they would have been huge. They never
>
> could
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> > > find a good bassist and only did a handful of gigs w/ a new bassist
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> before
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> > > they called a quits.
> > > A total shame really :(
> > > Still, we had fun w/ their punk band later and some list members know
> > > of their collaboration w/ Paul Resnik in Spacecore, who opened for
> > > Hawkwind
>
> at
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> > > the Empire.
> > >
> > > If you are a true metal fan and you don't have Maximum Destruction in
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> your
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> > > collection, you better hit the streets!
> > >
> > > Then theirs the metal seen that erupted in Tampa, Florida. The most
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> notable
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> > > band being Savatage. Power of The Night, Sirens and The Hall of The
> > > Mountain King are quintessential metal albums. Unfortunately, the
> > > tragic death of their guitarist in a car accident proved to be
> > > something they
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> just
>
> > > could not rebound from.....
> > >
> > > Sure.... Ozzy is not an American by birth, but his first band was an
> > > American band. Tommy Aldridge on drums - awesome and Randy Rhodes. Tell
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> me
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> > > he was not a great American metal guitarist!
> > >
> > > There was another California band called Warlord that was also great.
> > >
> > > In 1978 Hell Razor was formed in Ottawa, Canada. The band consisted of
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> John
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> > > Ricci (guitars), Dan Beehler (drums) and Allan Johnson (bass). In 1980,
> > > they changed their name to Exciter and recorded a demo. This demo was
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> sent
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> > > to Mike Varney of Shrapnel Records, who included one song from it,
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> "World
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> > > War III", on the compilation album US Metal Volume II in 1982. Shortly
> > > after that  Exciter was signed to Shrapel Records and in 1983 they
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> released
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> > > their debut LP, Heavy Metal Maniac. Later that year  signed a
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> 3-record-deal
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> > > with John Zazula's Mega Force Records and 1984 they released their
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> second
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> > > album, Violence & Force. This album was recorded in New York and
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> produced
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> > > by Carl Canedy (The Rods - another good metal band).
> > >
> > > So Exciter might not be a U.S. Metal band per se. But they buttered
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> their
>
> > > bread right here and released records on U.S. metal record labels that
> > > started the resurgence of metal across the globe. Exciter is STILL
> > > going
>
> to
>
> > > this day! Long Live The Loud!!!
> > >
> > > There were plenty of other U.S. metal bands represented on the Shrapnel
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> and
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> > > Megaforce labels.
> > >
> > > Then there's the bands mentioned earlier.....
> > >
> > > Megadeth - Rust In Peace - killer
> > > Anthrax - Fistful of Metal, Spreading The Disease, The Sound of White
>
> Noise
>
> > > Exodus
> > > Nuclear Assault
> > > Death Angel
> > > Manowar - first release, Sign of the Hammer, Into Glory Ride
> > > Corrosion of Conformity
> > > Slayer - the name says it all!!
> > > Queensryche - Operation Mind Crime - a masterpiece!
> > > Alice in Chains - fuck grunge - these guys were metal
> > > Blue Cheer - early metal
> > > Bloodrock
> > > Trouble - their first 3 releases were great!
> > > Monster Magnet - yeah, they ARE metal!
> > > WASP
> > > Armored Saint
> > > Ted Nugent
> > > Primus
> > > Great White
> > > Dream Theater
> > > Riot - Fire Down Under!!
> > > Guns & Roses - despise them, but many disagree
> > > Soundgarden
> > > Biohazard
> > >
> > > How many guys in Halford's band are Americans?
> > >
> > > Come on man.....
> > >
> > > Let's get.....
> > >
> > > INTO THE PIT!!!
> > >
> > > Dragon Rider
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Original Message-----
> > > From: Ben Fagin [mailto:vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:16 AM
> > > Subject: Re: OFF: Other bands
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you name any decent US Metal bands?
> > >
> > > I think Metallica are the only one really, we met them in 1984 at
>
> Shades,
>
> > > (Metal shop in soho, London W1)  remember that? Anyway, I thought they
>
> were
>
> > > a
> > > bunch of c***ts apart from Cliff Burton who was terrific, RIP.