HW: WOTEOT

[Cpt Blue Skin]

I think that record companies don't particularly make decisions on releasing
or not releasing an album based on the level of home duplicating (cdr) how
can that be accuratly determined anyway.
They base their future decisions on releasing back catalogue material based
on past sales etc.
And as Andy said its also something that is held back by legal dilemas with
either managment or an ex band member.

Personally I really can't understand how anyone could be satisfied with just
a cdr given that the legit version is available in a store.
People say - too expensive - got no money - plenty of money for booze and
smokes tho - hehe
that sort of thing.....

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Cpt Blue Skin
http://www.alien-dream.com
(Alien Dream)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Lockwood" <rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: HW: WOTEOT


> Hi Steve,
>
> Quite agree.
>
> However, if I own the album on vinyl, and don't have a turntable any more,
> I'd still want to be able to listen to it.
>
> Agreed, I'd rather buy it than have to "pirate" it, as you say, but if a
> recording's no longer available, for no good reason...
>
> I think I'm agreeing and disagreeing with you simultaneously, as you did
> with me.  :-)
>
> It's a dilemma, frankly.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rich.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Youles" <youless at LVCM.COM>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:02 AM
> Subject: Re: HW: WOTEOT
>
>
> > I totally sympathise with these sentiments, and simultaneously feel that
> it
> > is totally the wrong way to go about things.  There is huge demand for
> > WOTEOT to be made available on CD again - along with Quark, ASAM, PXR5,
> > Hawklords and whatever else is missing from the pantheon.  That isn't
> going
> > to happen if people do things that are (technically) piractical and
> > illegal, however understandable that is.  I'd also chip in with the
> > observation that copying official albums is not the same as audience
> taping
> > of live gigs.  I've slightly more sympathy with the latter, but am quite
> > ready to accept the band's ban on that.
> >
> > *Of course*, any Hawkwind fan who's committed enough to belong to this
> list
> > is not going to be satisfied with MP3 copies, or a tape.  They want the
> > real album, on an official release.  I know that.  You know that.  But
the
> > accountants who run major record companies (i.e. the only people who
could
> > ensure these works get re-released) don't know that.  They are bean
> > counters who will regard this kind of copying as loss of sales.  And
let's
> > face it, Hawkwind's back catalogue has to be their main commercial
asset,
> > more so than future albums.
> >
> > (As a case in point, I have an audience-taping CDR of the 18/08/01
> > Canterbury Sound Festival gig.  When I get my hands on the official
> > release, I'll break the CDR into a thousand pieces, place the wreckage
on
> > the scanner and post an image of it on my website for all to see.)
> >
> > So, while I don't think this is an immoral action, I don't think it's
The
> > Right Thing To Do, either.
> >
> > I hope that wasn't shouty!  And forty quid for a Dojo version of the
album
> > seems like a reasonably good price to have attained...
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:15:28 -0000, Richard Lockwood
> > <rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi guys,
> > >
> > >I know a few of you expressed interest in my mate's copy of Warrior.
> Just
> > >to let you know he's sold it for forty quid on Amazon.
> > >
> > >He's asked me to say thanks for the interest and all that - and if
> there's
> > >anyone who wanted it just for its musical qualities, he's ripped it out
> to
> > >MP3.  So, as WOTEOT is deleted, anyone who wants it contact me, and
I'll
> > >put you in touch with Sean.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >If an album is deleted (as WOTEOT is), and you want to hear it, and
your
> > >mate owns a copy, is it immoral for him to tape (or CD) it and give you
a
> > >copy knowing full well that you're going to keep it?
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >So, now he's sold it, is forty quid for the Dojo version a good price
> (for
> > >him!)?
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >Rich.
> >