HW: WOTEOT
Andrew Garibaldi
Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM
Mon Mar 17 18:25:27 EST 2003
Oh!!! - so the CD is being taken off your vinyl then? Blimey - the complete
history of a release in one fell swoop.Wonder why they have to take it off a
vinyl rather than the master tapes? Sounds omminous. Does that mean Mr Brock
no longer has them? Find that hard to believe.
Andy G.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Fagin" <vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: HW: WOTEOT
> I couldnt agree more!
>
> Come on Hawkwind Management get you're Master Tapes in order.
>
> I sent my Earthed to the Ground LP to Rob Ayling for re-mastering and
nich
> heard since. You're [Hawkwind Management] throwing away money.
>
>
> On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 01:15, you wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I know a few of you expressed interest in my mate's copy of Warrior.
Just
> > to let you know he's sold it for forty quid on Amazon.
> >
> > He's asked me to say thanks for the interest and all that - and if
there's
> > anyone who wanted it just for its musical qualities, he's ripped it out
to
> > MP3. So, as WOTEOT is deleted, anyone who wants it contact me, and I'll
> > put you in touch with Sean.
> >
> > I think this is an aposite moment to discuss MP3s and rips of CDs. (and
it
> > might avoid some shouty matches on the list)
> >
> > Bear with me on this...
> >
> > We're all agreed that selling bootlegs is a *bad thing*.
> >
> > Most of us agree that trading bootlegs is a *good thing*
> >
> > When we say "bootlegs", we mean "recordings of Hawkwind (or other band -
> > for now I'll just say Hawkwind, but you know what I'm getting at) which
are
> > not commercially available, but have been recorded by some bloke with a
> > condenser mic or recorded by bribing the bloke on the sound desk".
> >
> > (I've just fired up BBC 6 Music (www.bbc.co.uk/6music) and they're
> > advertising Motorhead!!!! 1am GMT, 6/3/03)
> >
> > Now, this is an interesting one. WOTEOT has been released twice, and
> > deleted twice. If your mate offered you an MP3 copy of it, on a cheap
18p
> > CD for the price of a pint - not because it cost him the price of a pint
> > (to our American Friends - a pint is TWENTY fluid ounces - but that's by
> > the by) but because he wanted to give you this great music, does that
make
> > it pirated, bootleg or illegal?
> >
> > I know full well that it's both pirated *AND* illegal, but my point is
> > this... (I'm probably not making myself clear here)
> >
> > If an album is deleted (as WOTEOT is), and you want to hear it, and your
> > mate owns a copy, is it immoral for him to tape (or CD) it and give you
a
> > copy knowing full well that you're going to keep it?
> >
> > My view is that if the thing's deleted, then there's no way you could
get a
> > copy that would give the band any profit, so - go for it, with the
thought
> > in the back of your hed that if you ever see that CD with that gorgeous
> > pink and blue Rodney Matthews cover, then you'll buy it.
> >
> > So if anyone wants the sounds of WOTEOT (rather than the full package!),
> > drop me a line and I'll put you in touch with Sean who can provide you
with
> > a copy of Warrior - but not the original any more.
> >
> > So, now he's sold it, is forty quid for the Dojo version a good price
(for
> > him!)?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rich.
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