HW: Various

[Michael "AlIeN dReAm" Blackman]

That's what it mostly is and its easy to tell when its strychnine based.
Its a rather lame trip and when its over you feel like you need a new spine.
Can't be good for you at all.


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Majka" <jmajk at INDY.RR.COM>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: HW: Various


> It's true that LSD is not easy to make as an amateur, which is why other
> substances are passed off as LSD.  When I hear lots of people describing
> their  "acid experiences," it sounds more like their "strychnine
> experiences."
>
> John Majka--pharmacist who studied a lot of medicinal chemistry
>
> > Especially the shit that is passed off as LSD these days.  Which - btw -
> > there really is very little real LSD anymore.  The cost of setting up a
> lab
> > that is as sterile and hygienic as is required (and keeping it secret)
> > forces most people to just make garbage from all sorts of poisons.  Not
> the
> > REAL DEAL.  Give it a miss.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "M Holmes" <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK>
> > To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: HW: Various
> >
> >
> > > HawkFan writes:
> > >
> > > > I know people who took LSD regularly and seem to have survived with
> > > > relatively untwisted personalities. I suspect Syd Barrett was always
a
> > bit
> > > > strange. Maybe the LSD pushed him off the edge and maybe he would
have
> > > > fallen off anyway.
> > >
> > > Sure.  As I said, about 3% of the population can be regarded as
> > > pre-schizophrenic and LSD is one of the things that can tip those
people
> > > over the edge.  While personal and family history, and to an extent
> > > psychological testing, can give a little insight into whether one is
in
> > > the 3% or the 97%, it's not an edge anyone would actually want to fall
> > > over.  A lifetime on antipsychotic drugs, or sliding down the social
> > > sxale due to mental illness, is a huge price to pay for a little
mental
> > > recreation.  OTOH, if I broke my neck skiing, pretty much the same
would
> > > apply.
> > >
> > > What's been interesting recently is that there's been a moral panic
due
> to
> > > some research claims that regular use of strong cannabis can induce
> > > similar effects. It's appeared in the press as "Cannabis Psychosis"
> > > stories involving "super skunk" and "marijuana ten times as strong as
> > > their parents used in the 60's". It doesn't seem to be hard to find
> > > doctors who'll say that the incidence of admission for this reason is
> up,
> > > and it wouldn't be exactly easy to compare the strength of cannabis
now
> > > to 40 years ago. I expect there'll be a few more moral panics on this
> one
> > > until the research jury comes in.
> > >
> > > Then again, it turned out that the "Ecstasy swiss-cheeses your brain"
> > > researchers had been unknowingly testing speed all along. We'll
probably
> > > just have to wait a decade to see whether the 20 year olds using
ecstasy
> > > in the 90's turn out to be miserable 40 year olds.
> > >
> > > To be fair to researchers though, the 50 year study into doctors and
> > > smoking is one hell of a piece of work. I doubt even FOREST could
argue
> > > with a straight face that it's not bad for you, and passive smoking
> > > looks to be worse than previously thought too. I'm geting optimistic
> > > that a public ban on smoking is close to arrival in Scotland. It'd be
> > > good to get my favourite drug without breathing other people's
poisons.
> > >
> > > FoFP
> > >
>