HW RE: off into dodgy vinyl ness

[David Dobbie]

> I'm puzzled: if it's still in the unopened shrink wrap (i.e., never
 > been played), then how do you know it's crackly?  Wouldn't that
 > require actually playing it to ascertain? ;-)
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > Paul.

I don't own an I meant I bought it shrinkwrapped, then I played it and to my surprise.
Obviously Doug has had the same fun as me, oh those were the days:

 > Ah, yes.  You bring up an excellent point about some "mint" records.  The
 > fact is, most UK record pressings (especially indie releases) from the
 > 80's absolutely SUCK.  I think that every Hawkwind album I bought new on
 > Flicknife or GWR was noisy and crackly straight out of the shrinkwrap.

I agree but also beg to differ. I have a lot of good pressings from the 80's, started really buying stuff about '84 I was fourteen then, and a big indie kid. Things that spring to mind as good pressing and still sounding good Fall on Beggars, J&MC not indie but the early 12"s were fantastically pressed and I remember the Rough Trade being good and solid. I also remeber some of the very small labels eg early Creation, Subway Org, Sarah and the 53rd & 3rd group. The worst label I ever encountered was Fire, awfull awfull vinyl.


 > Schrödinger's album, perhaps?

 > Nick

yeah was the record crackly before I palyed it, or did the act of playing it make it crackly. Is the other copy they are also selling in the shop as bad ? If I had never opened it would it be crackle free? probably not, duff pressing I think. The worst label I ever encountered was Fire.

I was a Happy boy when I could afford a CD palyer, what a great device. What a great signal to noise ratio, sounds so much better than vinyl, which sounds dead in comparision, that is pure fact and not just my opinion ;) ok I am being deliberately provocative. I have never heard an argument to covince me either way it all sounds like opinion to me, I believe that a lot of the sound comes from the equipment being used. I prefer CD if only for its practicality.

I got a CD just released by indie band Bearsuit yesterday which in its way reminds me of Hawkwind eg starts with some noisy electronic stuff, has some pop type songs on it and an awfull electronic track. If any ones interested check out www.bearsuit.co.uk, I am sure there are some MP3s they even get a bit blanga at times.

Love & Pax
Dobbie


 > -----Original Message-----
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 > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Paul Mather
 > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 20:40
 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
 > Subject: Re: HW RE: site for collectors CDr dodgy ness ?
 >
 >
 > On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 04:56:40PM -0000, David Dobbie wrote:
 >
 > => thats a scary world of crackles, scratches and drop outs.
 > How do you
 > => know if a record has never been palyed and that doesn't
 > allways mean
 > => its perfect I got Live Chronicles 2xLP on GWR / Profile still in
 > => unopened shrink wrap its way crackly
 >
 > I'm puzzled: if it's still in the unopened shrink wrap (i.e., never
 > been played), then how do you know it's crackly?  Wouldn't that
 > require actually playing it to ascertain? ;-)
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > Paul.
 >
 > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
 >
 > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of
 > boring production
 >  deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
 >         --- Frank Vincent Zappa
 >