Freeedom of Speech

[M Holmes]

Jonathan Jarrett writes:

> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 11:08:33AM +0000, M Holmes typed out:

> > pete howe writes:

> > > such is the sorry nature of some so-called "human beings"..so in
> > > reality, complete freedom of speech can never be totally justified

> > Try me.  I'll certainly give it a go.  Just hold people responsible
> > for predictable consequences of their speech which are illegal or
> > harmful.

> There's the weasel room right there

I stoat my case and I'll stick to it.

> in the word `predictable'.  Especially when you introduce statistics
> into it.  We can predict, perhaps, or so it could be claimed, that a
> certain number of people will infringe such rights, so how
> `predictable' does something need to be before you can legislate?

Enough for 12 folks on the jury to agree that it was only to be
expected. Stats won't cut it for your, heh, average jury.

> > > due to the minority that will abuse it.

> > It's about as reasonable to fix that problem by limiting freedom of
> > speech as it is to fix speeding by banning cars.

>         Surely not by banning cars, but by "limiting" their use to,
>         say, 70 mph and less in certain areas.  Oh

Doesn't creating that limit actually cause speeding? After all, one
can't speed where there's no speed limit.

> wait.  Limiting and banning are not the same thing in either case.

> I do agree with your principles here, but I think that so far
> the opposition has its arguments better marshalled.

Yeah, burning down Embassies is just so, well, eloquent.

Looks like the word is getting out about the Danish Imams who lied about
the three fake piccies though. If I were them, I'd be back in Denmark
when the arabs find out. The Danes hate 'em for what they've done, but
they'll stop at cutting relations with the danish Muslim Council. If
that piccie of the dog fucking a demale muslim worshipper gets
attributed to them in Saudi, they'll probably hand for apostasy.

Now *that* would be a hell of a way to learn to appreciate Danish free
speech.

FoFP