Tragedy

[pete howe]

give a nation guns..theres plenty of idiots that are going to use them.
Just a shame George W. Bush jnr wasnt on campus.
        Over here,Gordon Browns facing a vote of no confidence, and an OAP 
has been sent to jail for ASBO, if youd like to discuss..lol
     On topic please
             Peace

>From: Jean Lansford <oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: Tragedy
>Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:34:32 -0500
>
> > M Holmes wrote:
> >
> > I checked on the web. The students are victims of the federal law which
> > makes illegal any gun-carry in educational institutions. It's hardly
> > surprising that the nutters pick on these places when the legislation
> > guarantees them Safety At Work.
>
>Far more likely that there was some specific grudge against someone on 
>campus or perhaps the university as a whole. The gunman's first target in 
>the room we have the most information about was the professor. Whether 
>because he thought the professor more likely to fight back or for some 
>personal reason, we may never know. The same things are now being said of 
>Cho that were said of the Columbine kids in the first few hours: a loner 
>who no one knows much about despite being a senior.
>
>Almost all of the school shootings in the US have been by students. Of the 
>ones I can recall that weren't, one was a teacher's ex-boyfriend/stalker 
>who started shooting randomly when he couldn't find his intended target, 
>the Nickel Mines shooting was, as far as we know, a grudge shooting, and 
>one was a pedophile who took several high schools girls hostage.
>
> > Compare and contrast with that mall where the would be spree-killer was
> > shot at (and possibly shot) by an out-of-state cop exercising his
> > concealed-carry rights. The folks who penned and voted for that law have
> > blood on their hands too.
>
>The odds that a person with sufficient training to react sensibly would be 
>on a campus like VT are vanishingly small. A military veteran is more 
>likely than a cop or former cop, but veteran's college benefits aren't as 
>good as they once were, and they're tending to community colleges more than 
>universities these days. (My classmates during my recent time in a 
>community college included an ex-Marine and two bounty hunters looking to 
>switch to safer work. I pity anyone who tries to cause trouble around 
>them.) We've now heard of two classrooms that tried to bar the doors with 
>varying degrees of success; that's better than I expected, frankly.
>
>I doubt this will have much effect on gun laws. More money will be poured 
>into enforcing the existing laws, maybe, but there won't be an expansion of 
>concealed carry laws unless there's another charismatic Rambo wannabe (like 
>the chick in Killeen) who can convince lawmakers that he would have saved 
>them all if he'd only had a gun. It'll be a harder sell on the East Coast, 
>though. I was surprised to learn that the shooter was a resident alien. 
>They're not allowed to buy guns here in NC unless something has changed in 
>the past few years, but at least one of the VT guns appears to have been 
>legally purchased.

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