[Hawkwind] Re: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4

[Steve Freight]

Hi again Dave,

Amazing the tricks your mind and ear can play.

I've gone back and listened to the 2 versions and can now distinctly hear
the differences you have highlighted.

The only thing I'd like to add is that I'm amazed the band were so together
(if it is not an edit on the newly released version) as to be able to change
gear so in sinc with each other that it sounds like a cut!!!

Perhaps if Dave Brock sees this he may be able to shed some light on this.

Also seems strange that with all the old tape trading that went on a copy of
this gig never (to my knowledge) surfaced for this issue not to have been
known previously. As Jill says - time to update the Codex.

Steve

PS I've said this before, but think the sound on the new Truckers CD is the
best of anything previously released from this set.

On 10/27/07, Dave Brown <vonner at iname.com> wrote:
>
>   As a long-standing Hawkfan who actually used to have a copy of the
> Greasy Truckers LP (but sold it when the price was just right - after
> taping it of course!), I'm intimately familar with the best version
> of "Born To Go" ever. I've just received my copy of the CD and I see
> what Steve means about 3:57. However, I suspect there's something
> else going on here. I've got the version on Space Ritual, and it is
> indeed much longer. However...all is not what it seems.
>
> I've extracted both tracks to wav format and opened them in Cool
> Edit. The first thing I noticed is that the version on Ritual (and on
> the original album) has 30 seconds of Calvert going on about the
> miners, so I chopped that out so that both versions start at the
> opening chord.
>
> The next thing one notices is that the newly-released version has no
> echo on the vocals. That tells us before we even start that the
> original LP version (and the Ritual bonus track) is a remix.
>
> Ok, now to look at the timings. I picked some salient points in the
> song and checked whether they were the same in both versions. Here's
> what I found:
>
> 0:51 - After the intro, the track proper starts. Both versions agree
> (within a second)
>
> 1:29 - The first verse kicks in ("We Were Born To Go"), again both
> versions.
>
> 2:19 - The second verse ("Breaking out of the shell") checks out on
> both.
>
> 2:45 - However, here things go a bit strange. Where I expect the
> song to go (being familiar with the LP/Ritual Bonus track version) it
> doesn't. In fact, listening to it again, just after the second verse
> ends, there's a prominent Simon King drum roll, followed by that big
> synthesizer "swirl" from earlier in the song. This isn't in the new
> version, and I think that's because it's an overdub, added from
> earlier in the song.
>
> When we get the verse that starts "We were born to blaze", on
> the "old" version it's at 3:02, but on the new version it's at 4:15.
> However, vocally it's sung differently (listen to Calvert on "A
> nuclear way through space")
>
> In fact, in the old version this verse is sung again, at 7:18. This
> second rendition is vocally identical to the same verse at 4:15 in
> the new version...and is only sung once.
>
> So where's this "alternate" take on the verse from? That's the
> question. It isn't anywhere in the "new" recording. Personally I'm
> beginning to suspect it's an overdub added later (with Calvert adding
> vocals at the mixing stage), and this is the reason why the version
> on the new CD is shorter - it is in fact the original "as heard on
> the night" version, and the version we're familiar with has been
> chopped up a bit, and overdubbed.
>
> It would certainly explain that oddness at 3:57. Perhaps it's not
> actually an edit, but the original song diverging from the version we
> are familiar with. The version on Space Ritual has certainly been
> cleaned up and enhanced, so who's to say it wasn't "extended" as
> well?
>
> Only a true Hawkfan could be this sad!
>
> Dave
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