OEB all hallows

[Burro Mike]

Well it wasn't a proper gig per se' in that it was a live auditionfor a paying gig. We decided to use their open mic event as a way of auditioning. The place was quite packed, and I made an observation about the material that a lot of the younger kids were playing. It seemed that there is a sort of lilting/sad quality in many of the songs. There was nothing upbeat until we went on. I was sitting there wondering, "Why are these kids so sad sounding""..In my opinion one of the happiest sounds in the place was the sound of the coffee machine. It was a great venue, excellent sound..Anyway, we were told that we could only play two songs, because it was getting late, so we decided to link two numbers together without telling anyone. That way we hoped to play three tunes..The three tunes turned out to be the following:
The Wizard ( Uriah Heep )Ejection> Hurry On Sundown
So it was quite a hoot...BOO!!!
 
> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:32:06 -0400> From: LISTSERV at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> Subject: BOC-L Digest - 30 Oct 2007 - Special issue (#2007-278)> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > There are 19 messages totalling 1564 lines in this issue.> > Topics in this special issue:> > 1. HW: Litmus Dates (2)> 2. Mike Burro to make 'All Hallows' appearance TONIGHT (FREE)> 3. (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty, kitty's going to be all right (2)> 4. Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 (3)> 5. (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty (5)> 6. (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty Ozrics> 7. Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier (5)> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:44:00 +0000> From: Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK>> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> > On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> > Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> > <snip>> > > 28th October 2007> > The Underworld> > 174 Camden High Street> > London> > NW1 0NE> > (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> > Pistols and Earthling Society)> > <snip>> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented, > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus > into producing new t-shirt designs.> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs, > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance > again.> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes, > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and > possibly some help.> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't > really much for anyone else.> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> Jon> > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:38:41 +0000> From: Colin Allen <colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK>> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> > See my comments below:> > Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK> wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> > Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> > > > > 28th October 2007> > The Underworld> > 174 Camden High Street> > London> > NW1 0NE> > (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> > Pistols and Earthling Society)> > > > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented, > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus > into producing new t-shirt designs.> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea. > > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a very good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were probably played the best set on the night.> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs, > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance > again.> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes, > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and > possibly some help.> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to be heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was the cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were no longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially when compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space Ritual. I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened than you were.> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't > really much for anyone else.> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> Jon> > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:20:50 +0000> From: Burro Mike <sloterdijk at MSN.COM>> Subject: Mike Burro to make 'All Hallows' appearance TONIGHT (FREE)> > =20> > Mike Burro & Greg Elwell to make 'All Hallows' appearance' 10/30 FREE Oct=> ober, 30 2007 at Coffee Works Cafe 910 Berlin Rd, Vorhees, New Jersey 08043=> Cost : FREEMike Burro & Greg Elwell will perform a few acoustic songs for => =92All Hallows=92.=20> This has become a tradition, so come out and be part of it!!=20> venue phone number: ( 856 ) 784-5282> venue website: www.coffee-works.com> http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1> =20> _________________________________________________________________> Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf=E9. Stop => by today.> http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_Oc=> tWLtagline=> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:08:00 -0500> From: vzenv14m <maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET>> Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty, kitty's going to be all right> > Greetings friends,> Thanks to all who helped Mike Coleman with advice and support in dealing> with the crisis with his kitty, apparently the burns were from fertilizer> that the cat got into, so make sure your little friends can't get into> that, or antifreeze. The cat won't be losing his leg. These are reasons> why I don't let my little Kosh outside, but Mike found this little guy and> he followed him home and adopted him, and he intends to keep him an indoor> cat. Mike,> It's too bad you missed the PT show, but you did the right thing, getting> the cat seen right away, and I'm glad you got some help for the little one.> I don't know how well attended the show was in Texas, but I hope they come> back to your area, I was bummed they didn't play Boston, and they didn't> play anywhere close enough to make a show practical for me.> > Love in space, to all,> > Mary and Kosh> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:18:11 -0400> From: Gordon Hundley <drgoon at MAC.COM>> Subject: Re: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4> > On Oct 24, 2007, at 4:20 AM, Steve Freight wrote:> > > Well worth getting even with the clunky edit on Born To Go! Now for > > Man and> > Brinsley!> >> > Oh and one extra thing I should have put in my mail to EMI - Born > > To Go full> > version was also on the original Vinyl edition of Greasy Truckers > > so if> > anyone else writes in to them mention this! Probably gets us no- > > where but> > I'll post any reply I get.> > Just as with the original vinyl and earlier CD releases, there's > still around ten minutes missing from Spunk Rock prior to the fade- > in. This is the best attempt so far, I suppose, but why the hell > can't they release the whole thing or at least fess up that they've > destroyed their archival copies if that's what has happened?> > Gordon.> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:19:12 -0400> From: Gordon Hundley <drgoon at MAC.COM>> Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty> > On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:02 PM, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote:> > > a last note> > the cat is going she has a connection through her work.....> > but _I did_ have to fight> > she wants (it would seem) ultimately to take it to her apartment > > where four> > other cats are, and then take it to work with her if needed when I > > have> > nothing but time and love (my friend certainly couldn't argue)> > I am not going so I don't cause any scene and as my act of trust > > with them> > but this one loves and trusts me above all others and of that there is> > nooooooo doubt> > positive thoughts please> > i am not retarded, just unfamiliar with feline emergency care> > I hope the cat gets well. But you are now without him? That sucks.> > > *my friend Robin who _did_ make the Porcupine show talked of video > > with kids> > popping pills and a message of more caring for the world, sounds > > like where> > I'm at....she actually seemed equally if not more impressed by an > > opening> > act called "3" or "three".....*> > *here's hoping they ever get to Tejas again*> > *we never saw the Ozric's a second time, and speaking of I hope the > > nice> > forum participant who can hear himself on the live CD is with us > > and doing> > good*> > *peace*> > Porcupine Tree will be back in your area before too long, I don't > doubt. Texas hasn't been one of the primary markets, so they've only > had shows every other year rather than a couple of times a year that > we spoilt folks in the NE have had. But by all accounts, the band was > very impressed with the audiences, and even said of Dallas that they > wished that they had brought recording equipment because the crowd > was so good. As far as I know, 2008 is largely going to be a break > for PT, and they have no commitments or plans, but they expect to do > 'a handful' of gigs in major cities. Which may or may not include any > US gigs. Probably 2009 on the next album cycle before any real tour > swings around again.> > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now > that Joie & Merv are back, I presume there are more visas to deal > with. Here's hoping a proper US tour comes together soon.> > Gordon> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:27:37 -0400> From: David Kuznick <dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU>> Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty> > Quoting Gordon Hundley <drgoon at MAC.COM>:> > > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their> > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now> > that Joie & Merv are back,> > Oh, I hadn't heard that. That's very good news.> > -- > David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu> "Saturn comes back around to show you everything> Lets you choose what you will not see and then> Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again> Spits you out like a child, light and innocent." The Grudge - TOOL> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:45:15 +0000> From: Steve Freight <stevefreight at GMAIL.COM>> Subject: Re: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4> > Hi Gordon,> > They do actually confess that they do not have the start as they were late> turning on the recorder. It's in the body of the booklet somewhere.> > Steve> > > On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley <drgoon at mac.com> wrote:> Just as with the original vinyl and earlier CD releases, there's> still around ten minutes missing from Spunk Rock prior to the fade-> in. This is the best attempt so far, I suppose, but why the hell> can't they release the whole thing or at least fess up that they've> destroyed their archival copies if that's what has happened?> > Gordon.> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:03:01 -0600> From: DOG ROT ANIMAL <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>> Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty> > it's a blessed sunshiny day dallas way.......wasn't going to put eric> johnson the moon kitty from beyond the stars on the forum any further, but> the vet he saw today was what I thought the day heralded, no-nonsense,> straight-forward....said eric won't be losing his leg (which wasn't reported> yesterday), said kitty probably sat in *fertilizer, *or a car engine,> etc.....kitty stays with me, gets bandages changed every other day.........> *fabulous info on the Steve Wilson experience and equally dazzling on the Ed> Wynne experience, guess I better figure out how to tuck in a shirt with the> beer-belly and guts up toward a (cough,> ghasp)..j.....ja.......(cough)....jah......*> *I can't say it.......*> *there's this extremely large luvpack I just signed for that sopmebody sent> the EJ experience from NY......*> *I wish I could remember who.......*> > > On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley <drgoon at mac.com> wrote:> >> > On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:02 PM, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote:> >> > > a last note> > > the cat is going she has a connection through her work.....> > > but _I did_ have to fight> > > she wants (it would seem) ultimately to take it to her apartment> > > where four> > > other cats are, and then take it to work with her if needed when I> > > have> > > nothing but time and love (my friend certainly couldn't argue)> > > I am not going so I don't cause any scene and as my act of trust> > > with them> > > but this one loves and trusts me above all others and of that there is> > > nooooooo doubt> > > positive thoughts please> > > i am not retarded, just unfamiliar with feline emergency care> >> > I hope the cat gets well. But you are now without him? That sucks.> >> > > *my friend Robin who _did_ make the Porcupine show talked of video> > > with kids> > > popping pills and a message of more caring for the world, sounds> > > like where> > > I'm at....she actually seemed equally if not more impressed by an> > > opening> > > act called "3" or "three".....*> > > *here's hoping they ever get to Tejas again*> > > *we never saw the Ozric's a second time, and speaking of I hope the> > > nice> > > forum participant who can hear himself on the live CD is with us> > > and doing> > > good*> > > *peace*> >> > Porcupine Tree will be back in your area before too long, I don't> > doubt. Texas hasn't been one of the primary markets, so they've only> > had shows every other year rather than a couple of times a year that> > we spoilt folks in the NE have had. But by all accounts, the band was> > very impressed with the audiences, and even said of Dallas that they> > wished that they had brought recording equipment because the crowd> > was so good. As far as I know, 2008 is largely going to be a break> > for PT, and they have no commitments or plans, but they expect to do> > 'a handful' of gigs in major cities. Which may or may not include any> > US gigs. Probably 2009 on the next album cycle before any real tour> > swings around again.> >> > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their> > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now> > that Joie & Merv are back, I presume there are more visas to deal> > with. Here's hoping a proper US tour comes together soon.> >> > Gordon> >> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:12:15 -0400> From: Gordon Hundley <drgoon at MAC.COM>> Subject: Re: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4> > Ah, okay. So it wasn't edited down to convenient vinyl sized chunk at > all, its simply a case of "dude, have you turned the recorder on > yet?", "no, Dave said that Tommy was doing it", "dude, you are > Tommy", "oh yeah, right". Toke.> > ;)> > Gordon.> > On Oct 30, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Steve Freight wrote:> > > Hi Gordon,> >> > They do actually confess that they do not have the start as they > > were late> > turning on the recorder. It's in the body of the booklet somewhere.> >> > Steve> >> >> > On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley <drgoon at mac.com> wrote:> > Just as with the original vinyl and earlier CD releases, there's> > still around ten minutes missing from Spunk Rock prior to the fade-> > in. This is the best attempt so far, I suppose, but why the hell> > can't they release the whole thing or at least fess up that they've> > destroyed their archival copies if that's what has happened?> >> > Gordon.> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:29:24 -0600> From: DOG ROT ANIMAL <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>> Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty> > Hey Gordon,> This is Robin after the fact and concert in Dallas. It was fantastic. One> thing though! I want to know how you know so much about Pt as well as Oz> Ten? I am loving all their work. YOU can respond to me directly at> abigstepup at yahoo.com> it is definitely a start in the right direction. at any rate. i hate the> fact that our government visa b--s--t. keeps these great talented people> from coming around. as far as i am concerend DFW is full of freaks and great> talent as well as good rockers. I hail from Chicao area and they rock just> about the same. at my age i have been throught at least 15 types of various> rock seguays. let me knowwhat you think. cheers! Robin> > On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley <drgoon at mac.com> wrote:> >> > On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:02 PM, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote:> >> > > a last note> > > the cat is going she has a connection through her work.....> > > but _I did_ have to fight> > > she wants (it would seem) ultimately to take it to her apartment> > > where four> > > other cats are, and then take it to work with her if needed when I> > > have> > > nothing but time and love (my friend certainly couldn't argue)> > > I am not going so I don't cause any scene and as my act of trust> > > with them> > > but this one loves and trusts me above all others and of that there is> > > nooooooo doubt> > > positive thoughts please> > > i am not retarded, just unfamiliar with feline emergency care> >> > I hope the cat gets well. But you are now without him? That sucks.> >> > > *my friend Robin who _did_ make the Porcupine show talked of video> > > with kids> > > popping pills and a message of more caring for the world, sounds> > > like where> > > I'm at....she actually seemed equally if not more impressed by an> > > opening> > > act called "3" or "three".....*> > > *here's hoping they ever get to Tejas again*> > > *we never saw the Ozric's a second time, and speaking of I hope the> > > nice> > > forum participant who can hear himself on the live CD is with us> > > and doing> > > good*> > > *peace*> >> > Porcupine Tree will be back in your area before too long, I don't> > doubt. Texas hasn't been one of the primary markets, so they've only> > had shows every other year rather than a couple of times a year that> > we spoilt folks in the NE have had. But by all accounts, the band was> > very impressed with the audiences, and even said of Dallas that they> > wished that they had brought recording equipment because the crowd> > was so good. As far as I know, 2008 is largely going to be a break> > for PT, and they have no commitments or plans, but they expect to do> > 'a handful' of gigs in major cities. Which may or may not include any> > US gigs. Probably 2009 on the next album cycle before any real tour> > swings around again.> >> > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their> > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now> > that Joie & Merv are back, I presume there are more visas to deal> > with. Here's hoping a proper US tour comes together soon.> >> > Gordon> >> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:34:54 -0500> From: vzenv14m <maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET>> Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty> > I want to thank that guy from NYC as well. For a "capitalist son of a> bitch," as you put it, you're all right.> > Love to you, your mate, and the little ones,> > Mary> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:36:59 -0500> From: vzenv14m <maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET>> Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty Ozrics> > I hadn't heard they'd rejoined either, I hope they make it back next year.> > Kaduflyer> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:46:27 EDT> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM> Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty, kitty's going to be all right> > In a message dated 10/30/2007 2:09:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET writes:> > <apparently the burns were from fertilizer> <that the cat got into, > > Fertilizer!! Wot the f**K is Coleman doin down there, making bombs? I sure > as hell know he ain't growin corn, or is this ethanol scam starting to trickle > down?> Looking forward to the further adventures of 'Lil Mike and Kitty Hawk' > ...ohhh gawd i gotta get a life.> Hi Mare Mare! BTW string is NO GOOD let Tosh know.> > bsny> > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com> > ------------------------------> > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:54:56 -0000> From: trev <judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM>> Subject: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > Yesssssssssssss.> > I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the editing > stage.> The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in > 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour> line up:> Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy Grenias > (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh> It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the > present Space Ritual rather interesting.> > trev> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" <colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK>> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> > > > See my comments below:> >> > Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK> wrote: On Tue, Oct > > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> >> >> >> >> 28th October 2007> >> The Underworld> >> 174 Camden High Street> >> London> >> NW1 0NE> >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> >> Pistols and Earthling Society)> >> >> >> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and> > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented,> > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus> > into producing new t-shirt designs.> >> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea.> >> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam,> > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost> > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their> > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the> > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the> > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about> > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an> > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his> > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw> > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> >> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a very > > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was > > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were > > probably played the best set on the night.> >> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they> > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other> > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an> > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde> > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been> > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton> > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they> > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far> > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for> > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to> > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols> > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were> > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer> > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited> > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all> > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily> > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too> > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being> > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely> > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album> > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the> > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> >> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that> > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this> > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and> > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken> > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but> > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs,> > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were> > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and> > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too> > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance> > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap> > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As> > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance> > again.> >> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at> > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a> > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes,> > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at> > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be> > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon,> > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with> > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or> > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to> > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we> > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point> > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes> > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and> > possibly some help.> >> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to be > > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him > > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was the > > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were no > > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially when > > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space Ritual. > > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened than > > you were.> >> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known.> > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting> > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has> > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the> > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down> > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too> > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with> > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer> > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I> > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd> > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old> > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues> > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them> > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in> > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually> > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences> > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't> > really much for anyone else.> >> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind,> > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright> > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a> > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar> > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> > Jon> >> > -- > > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > > > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:29:12 -0600> From: DOG ROT ANIMAL <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>> Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like> one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of> that.......> I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you in the> states> bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being> carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney into> the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know> I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs> I deserved it> > > On 10/30/07, trev <judge48 at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> > Yesssssssssssss.> >> > I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the editing> > stage.> > The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in> > 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour> > line up:> > Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy> > Grenias> > (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh> > It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the> > present Space Ritual rather interesting.> >> > trev> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Colin Allen" <colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK>> > To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM> > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> >> >> > > See my comments below:> > >> > > Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK> wrote: On Tue, Oct> > > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> > >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> > >> > >> > >> > >> 28th October 2007> > >> The Underworld> > >> 174 Camden High Street> > >> London> > >> NW1 0NE> > >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> > >> Pistols and Earthling Society)> > >> > >> > >> > > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and> > > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented,> > > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus> > > into producing new t-shirt designs.> > >> > > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea.> > >> > > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam,> > > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost> > > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their> > > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the> > > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the> > > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about> > > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an> > > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his> > > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw> > > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> > >> > > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a> > very> > > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was> > > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were> > > probably played the best set on the night.> > >> > > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they> > > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other> > > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an> > > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde> > > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been> > > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton> > > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they> > > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far> > > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for> > > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to> > > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols> > > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were> > > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer> > > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited> > > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all> > > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily> > > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too> > > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being> > > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely> > > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album> > > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the> > > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> > >> > > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that> > > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this> > > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and> > > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken> > > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but> > > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs,> > > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were> > > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and> > > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too> > > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance> > > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap> > > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As> > > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance> > > again.> > >> > > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at> > > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a> > > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes,> > > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at> > > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be> > > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon,> > > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with> > > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or> > > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to> > > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we> > > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point> > > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes> > > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and> > > possibly some help.> > >> > > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to> > be> > > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him> > > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was> > the> > > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were> > no> > > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially when> > > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space> > Ritual.> > > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened> > than> > > you were.> > >> > > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known.> > > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting> > > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has> > > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the> > > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down> > > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too> > > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with> > > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer> > > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I> > > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd> > > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old> > > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues> > > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them> > > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in> > > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually> > > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences> > > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't> > > really much for anyone else.> > >> > > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind,> > > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright> > > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a> > > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar> > > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> > > Jon> > >> > > --> > > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> > > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> > > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > >> >> > ------------------------------> > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:22:49 -0000> From: trev <judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM>> Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > European Space Ritual...European Space Ritual> I'll blow that Helios wotsit off anyday> > is/was Paul Fox in Farflung????> > .and stop taking Xanax - take cold baths instead> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DOG ROT ANIMAL" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:29 AM> Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > > > Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like> > one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of> > that.......> > I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you in the> > states> > bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being> > carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney into> > the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know> > I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs> > I deserved it> >> >> > On 10/30/07, trev <judge48 at hotmail.com> wrote:> >>> >> Yesssssssssssss.> >>> >> I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the > >> editing> >> stage.> >> The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in> >> 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour> >> line up:> >> Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy> >> Grenias> >> (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh> >> It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the> >> present Space Ritual rather interesting.> >>> >> trev> >> ----- Original Message -----> >> From: "Colin Allen" <colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK>> >> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM> >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> >>> >>> >> > See my comments below:> >> >> >> > Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK> wrote: On Tue, > >> > Oct> >> > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> >> >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 28th October 2007> >> >> The Underworld> >> >> 174 Camden High Street> >> >> London> >> >> NW1 0NE> >> >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> >> >> Pistols and Earthling Society)> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and> >> > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented,> >> > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus> >> > into producing new t-shirt designs.> >> >> >> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea.> >> >> >> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam,> >> > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost> >> > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their> >> > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the> >> > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of > >> > the> >> > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about> >> > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an> >> > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit > >> > his> >> > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw> >> > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> >> >> >> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a> >> very> >> > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was> >> > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were> >> > probably played the best set on the night.> >> >> >> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they> >> > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, > >> > other> >> > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an> >> > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde> >> > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been> >> > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar > >> > Broughton> >> > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they> >> > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far> >> > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for> >> > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to> >> > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols> >> > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs > >> > were> >> > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer> >> > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be > >> > credited> >> > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all> >> > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a > >> > happily> >> > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too> >> > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being> >> > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely> >> > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album> >> > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the> >> > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> >> >> >> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that> >> > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this> >> > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and> >> > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken> >> > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but> >> > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs,> >> > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were> >> > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and> >> > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for > >> > too> >> > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a > >> > performance> >> > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap> >> > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. > >> > As> >> > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance> >> > again.> >> >> >> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at> >> > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a> >> > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two > >> > minutes,> >> > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and > >> > at> >> > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be> >> > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon,> >> > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with> >> > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or> >> > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to> >> > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we> >> > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point> >> > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what > >> > goes> >> > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and> >> > possibly some help.> >> >> >> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to> >> be> >> > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him> >> > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was> >> the> >> > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were> >> no> >> > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially > >> > when> >> > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space> >> Ritual.> >> > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened> >> than> >> > you were.> >> >> >> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known.> >> > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting> >> > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has> >> > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and > >> > the> >> > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down> >> > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too> >> > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with> >> > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer> >> > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I> >> > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd> >> > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old> >> > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues> >> > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them> >> > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans > >> > in> >> > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually> >> > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences> >> > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't> >> > really much for anyone else.> >> >> >> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind,> >> > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright> >> > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a> >> > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar> >> > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> >> > Jon> >> >> >> > --> >> > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> >> > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> >> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> >> >> >>> > > > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:30:48 EDT> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM> Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > In a message dated 10/30/2007 10:24:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM writes:> > i<s/was Paul Fox in Farflung????> Yes, and Pressurehed too> > > > .<and stop taking Xanax - take cold baths instead> Kitty has eaten all the X's and is drinking the bath water..doh!!> > bsny> > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:31:26 -0600> From: DOG ROT ANIMAL <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>> Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > 1) uhh, I'll go for that> 2) Paul is kewel> 3) no> 4) it's hot baths, more than anyone ever> 5) even though your the "writer", like the UFO song which is great, watch> it, or I'll get BAS associates, you you you...nevemind> mc cold clamey bombing DRA, future leader of the USA revolt in the streets> > > On 10/30/07, trev <judge48 at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> > European Space Ritual...European Space Ritual> > I'll blow that Helios wotsit off anyday> >> > is/was Paul Fox in Farflung????> >> > .and stop taking Xanax - take cold baths instead> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "DOG ROT ANIMAL" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>> > To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:29 AM> > Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> >> >> > > Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like> > > one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of> > > that.......> > > I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you in> > the> > > states> > > bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being> > > carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney> > into> > > the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know> > > I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs> > > I deserved it> > >> > >> > > On 10/30/07, trev <judge48 at hotmail.com> wrote:> > >>> > >> Yesssssssssssss.> > >>> > >> I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the> > >> editing> > >> stage.> > >> The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in> > >> 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour> > >> line up:> > >> Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy> > >> Grenias> > >> (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh> > >> It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the> > >> present Space Ritual rather interesting.> > >>> > >> trev> > >> ----- Original Message -----> > >> From: "Colin Allen" <colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK>> > >> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM> > >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> > >>> > >>> > >> > See my comments below:> > >> >> > >> > Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK> wrote: On Tue,> > >> > Oct> > >> > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> > >> >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 28th October 2007> > >> >> The Underworld> > >> >> 174 Camden High Street> > >> >> London> > >> >> NW1 0NE> > >> >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> > >> >> Pistols and Earthling Society)> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and> > >> > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented,> > >> > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured> > Litmus> > >> > into producing new t-shirt designs.> > >> >> > >> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea.> > >> >> > >> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam,> > >> > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost> > >> > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of> > their> > >> > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the> > >> > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of> > >> > the> > >> > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about> > >> > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was> > an> > >> > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit> > >> > his> > >> > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I> > saw> > >> > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> > >> >> > >> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a> > >> very> > >> > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set> > was> > >> > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were> > >> > probably played the best set on the night.> > >> >> > >> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they> > >> > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair,> > >> > other> > >> > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an> > >> > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde> > >> > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been> > >> > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar> > >> > Broughton> > >> > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they> > >> > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far> > >> > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point> > for> > >> > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to> > >> > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols> > >> > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs> > >> > were> > >> > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer> > >> > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be> > >> > credited> > >> > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all> > >> > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a> > >> > happily> > >> > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too> > >> > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being> > >> > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely> > >> > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album> > >> > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save> > the> > >> > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> > >> >> > >> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that> > >> > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts> > this> > >> > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and> > >> > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken> > >> > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but> > >> > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete> > songs,> > >> > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were> > >> > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and> > >> > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for> > >> > too> > >> > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a> > >> > performance> > >> > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to> > wrap> > >> > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff.> > >> > As> > >> > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance> > >> > again.> > >> >> > >> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at> > >> > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was> > a> > >> > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two> > >> > minutes,> > >> > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and> > >> > at> > >> > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be> > >> > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon,> > >> > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with> > >> > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or> > >> > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to> > >> > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting,> > we> > >> > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point> > >> > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what> > >> > goes> > >> > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and> > >> > possibly some help.> > >> >> > >> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed> > to> > >> be> > >> > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left> > him> > >> > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This> > was> > >> the> > >> > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs> > were> > >> no> > >> > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially> > >> > when> > >> > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space> > >> Ritual.> > >> > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened> > >> than> > >> > you were.> > >> >> > >> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known.> > >> > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by> > recruiting> > >> > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has> > >> > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and> > >> > the> > >> > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold> > down> > >> > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too> > >> > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with> > >> > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the> > drummer> > >> > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't,> > I> > >> > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if> > you'd> > >> > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old> > >> > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues> > >> > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them> > >> > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans> > >> > in> > >> > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually> > >> > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences> > >> > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't> > >> > really much for anyone else.> > >> >> > >> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind,> > >> > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place;> > outright> > >> > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on> > a> > >> > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar> > >> > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> > >> > Jon> > >> >> > >> > --> > >> > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> > >> > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> > >> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > ------------------------------> > End of BOC-L Digest - 30 Oct 2007 - Special issue (#2007-278)> *************************************************************
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