Knights of Space audio mix

[john-paul]

but i am sorry scott, that is just not the case on the copy i have. when we 
see a close up of musician/instrument that instrument can be clearly heard. 
on a couple of occasions tims synth/guitar can't be heard but after you see 
him fiddle with some buttons you can hear him fine, thats his fault not the 
mix. his theremin is perfectly mixed and compliments the music wonderfully. 
daves guitar also gets louder after he has played around with his magic box? 
i am convinced there are different mixes of this out there and if this is 
right then the question is, why? john-paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" <shll at HAGEDORN.DK>
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Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Knights of Space audio mix


Hello

I agree with what Eli says here. This is probably the main problem but in 
both cases, Dave's guitar is usually the lowest instrument in the mix and 
this should not be and many of Tim's solos and thermin playing is poorly 
audible. It just does not sound that good so why bother when you can watch 
the winter solstice 2005, which is much better...I am told...

It all really comes down to quality control and no one actually watched the 
final thing before it was released it would seem. This lack of correlation 
between what you see and what you hear is strange and should just not 
happen.. Why should the guitar or thermin be neglected? People would really 
complain more if you could see them singing and not here it but for me the 
guitar is as important as the vocal.

scott


-----Original Message-----
From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM [mailto:elipxr5 at AOL.COM]
Sent: 22. februar 2009 17:35
Subject: Re: Knights of Space review on amazon.com

I think there are two sides to the audio quality issue on KOS. To my ears 
there is really nothing at all wrong with the way that soundtrack sounds 
taken as an isolated piece of music. The sound is clear, and the mix is 
decent, on its own merits. I think that what is freaking out Lost Johnny and 
some others has to do with the fact that this mix does not allow you to hear 
the instruments that your eyes are seeing in the video, and this can be 
quite disconcerting. Certainly, its very strange when you see Tim gesturing 
at the theremin, and don't hear the sounds being produced, it makes you 
think the mix is off. Same for Dave's guitar at points, you see him playing 
it physically, but you don't get to hear the sound produced on the track. I 
have no idea why these elements were downplayed in the mix, but I would 
argue that if you listen with your eyes closed that you would not be able to 
categorize this as bad audio. So to sum up...I think the audio is fine taken 
on its own...but I!
  would support the concept that the mix does not play well against the 
video because of the way that the instruments are highlighted in this mix. 
Eli


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Freight <stevefreight at GMAIL.COM>
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Sent: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 4:34 am
Subject: Re: Knights of Space review on amazon.com








I've been reading these with interest as I had mislaid my copy of this and 
have found it this morning.

I've just been listening and have to agree with john-paul, my copy is 
absolutely fine and I'm enjoying it now.

Pleased that this thread has led me to listen to this again.

Steve

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 8:31 AM, john-paul <hawkwomble at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> i think there must be two different mixes of kos out there. mine is
> absolutely fine and a friend says his is great too. i can't believe
> someone would say the things they are saying if they had the disc that
> i have. we really do need some clarity from somone on this subject.
> what the hell is happening to this band? john-paul
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lost Johnny" <
> busterpepper at MIDWAYNET.NET>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Knights of Space review on amazon.com
>
>
>  I was talking about John-Paul saying his Knights of Space sound
> quality is ok and that he could hear Tim Blake's Theremin . Because I
> thought the mix was awful and that Tim Blake was doing a mime act like
> on the Black Sword tour or something ,because I couldn't hear any
> Theremin . So either him or me may need an ear doctor visit because
> one of us is hearing a good mix with a Theremin and one of us isn't .
>



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