HW 40th Anniversay Show
Paul Mather
paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU
Wed Feb 25 15:32:10 EST 2009
On 25 Feb 2009, at 12:04 PM, Colin Allen wrote:
> Paul,
>
> That is a nicely nuanced commentary. Just to clarify one point, it
> was not Alan who instigated the taping/trading ban. I was asked to
> make the announcement about the ban by Kris, who was very angry
> about the taping.
I might have been unclear in my original message regarding the taping/
trading ban. I don't know whether Alan was behind it, just that he
had been *portrayed* as the instigator. That is why I found his
denial in that interview interesting. It sort of came out of the
blue, so to speak. Not to muddy the waters, but here is a message you
sent to Neo-Quark, re: Bedouin, on 14th September 2002, about two or
so months before Hawkwind announced their ban:
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Hi all,
I think that all of us here are interested in the survival and
success of Hawkind and the related bands. It has come to my notice
that Alan Davey is very unhappy with the recording and trading of
Bedouin concerts. I would like to think that we would respect his
views and cease audience recording and trading of Bedouin gigs.
I am not trying to be heavy but I feel that we should respect the
views of someone like Alan.
Colin
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How this unhappiness came to your notice you don't say, but obviously
it means there is some pre-existing publicity for the notion that Alan
is anti-taping/trading. That's why I was surprised to read in that
interview that, according to him, the Hawkwind ban didn't stem from him.
> The ban came about because, on the 2002 tour, there had been a
> couple of instances where people were found recording shows. In one
> case, someone who was caught one night was caught again the
> following night, despite promising not to do it again.
I remember at the time you passing on the ban message (and being the
unfortunate messenger who subsequently got shot at), and clearly
saying it was official and from Dave and Kris. I do also have a
recollection that, although we never seemed to get a straight answer
as to why the ban was in effect, that a large part of the blame came
subsequently to rest on Alan's (alleged) anti-taping/trading views.
Certainly, this is how the authorised history came to be written, if
this news announcement (reproduced from the Hawkwind Museum) is
anything to go by:
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22.12.07 - More photos and a very special Christmas message
In case you missed it on the main index page (picture details at the
bottom) -
Hawkwind are happy to let you know, (and we are sure that some of you
will already have noticed :-), that since the departure of Alan Davey,
we have been able to dispense with the computer, which was really
Alan's domain and only used on his numbers…………. and we will also be
able to lift the ban on trading!
Since AD’s trading embargo has been lifted, we are going to endeavour
to release live cds or downloads of each new show, not each gig, but
hopefully every major set-list change. Aiming for one show from each
major set of dates, so that all of you who are unable to attend the
actual shows will not miss out. The first of these releases will be of
the Dec 2007 Astoria show which we will make available as soon as
possible.
We have to be realistic and accept that many venues will not allow
taping; we cannot overrule the individual venues.
Also trading does not mean bootlegging………but we are sure that you are
all aware of the lines not to be crossed, just spread the word and
keep the faith…..
[[...]]
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Describing the Hawkwind ban as "AD’s trading embargo" appears to lay
the blame for it firmly at Alan's door. That is completely at odds
with what Alan says in that recent interview.
It's not my wish to rehash the unfortunate episode of the taping/
trading ban, because that was a very unpleasant affair at the time. I
am glad, as Hawkwind fans, it is behind us. I was just pointing out
that the news coming out of the "Hawkwind family," be it from the
"official" Hawkwind (i.e., Brock) or ex-members (i.e., Turner, Davey,
etc.) is extremely contradictory and confusing. (Do I win the prize
for Understatement of the Year, 2009?) I don't know about you, but as
for me, I take it all with a massive lorry load of salt. Just when
you think you've got something straight, along comes another Hawkwind
source that completely undermines it, basically leaving you
disbelieving it all in the end, and not knowing what to believe.
It wasn't my intention to take sides or be "nuanced." I just found
Alan's interview interesting because it contradicted a lot of the
prevailing orthodoxy (including what I thought was his own).
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
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