FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology?

[mike coleman]

oh good, despite the timewarp my switched cd's didn't mess him up.
I dropped out of 11 th grade Jon, but if Brian's still running around in
Marina Del Rey, and releasing music I'm willling to chase him and Tommy too
I don't have "when science fails" or "Nine Pin Body" so any comments as to
how deep my food rations should now go- appreciated
If I can add anything here I will-
thanks Jon


On 1/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, mike coleman wrote:
>
> I always wondered why my copy of "so many minds" bugged me a bit but I just
>> noticed (again, years later) that while the CD advertises 8 tracks, my
>> copy
>> only reads 4, and that track  goes on for like 40 minutes...
>> so....
>> are there some hidden tracks that can be recovered or do I gave a
>> collectors
>> item and need to head out to Amazon???
>>
>
>        Mine is like this too, I think they all are. Well, actually mine's
> not quite like that: there are four audio tracks as seen by the CD player;
> the track-listing on the back of the case lists six; and the sleeve notes
> also refer to tracks #7 & #8. So none of it adds up. If yours isn't like
> that then one of us may have a collectors' item, but I'm not sure which or
> by how much.
>
>        Years ago I mailed Buck McGibbony, the original bass player who's on
> the first three albums, about this--at least, I mailed the contact address
> on the initial Farflung website--all praise the Wayback Machine! it's been
> archived, having apparently been taken down in early 2001, at:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20000824132513/www.wgn.net/~gnudarve/farflung/
> --and that's who answered. He's an odd man and didn't make things quite as
> clear as one might have liked, but if I remember rightly this much is true:
>
> (i) the mastering plant and the artwork people both screwed up--but I'm not
> sure whether there were supposed to be six or eight tracks in the 'right'
> version.
>
> (ii) I had it `roughly right' that `Raven' as it stands is the correct full
> track #1, `Sonic Evaporation' is the following track with the "I'm
> disintegrating..." refrain as far as the unexpected multicoloured organ
> cascade, which is `Helianthus', `Candied Electronic Atmospheres' is what
> happens next and `Alius Orbis' starts with the crushing downwards riff that
> we can also identify because it's been in a live set or two like the Strange
> Daze CD-R. `The Way the Sky Is' is of course on _So Many Minds_ so we know
> that one, and `(It's Not A Bad Dream)' refers to the forty-minute circus
> organ outtro we all know and dread. (Dare *you* listen to the thing
> carefully enough to see if it repeats anywhere? I'm not sure it's looped, I
> think they may actually have played it.)
>
> (iii) However, if I'm only `roughly' right about that I have no idea where
> I might be wrong, if you follow. If you had to make eight out of this I
> would split either `Sonic Evaporation' or `Alius Orbis', which does in this
> scheme have a lengthy second part that's not in the live version, but I'm
> not sure which, and count `Not a Bad Dream' as a separate track for #8. I
> could be way wrong though. It would make more sense maybe to split `Sonic
> Evaporation', because then track #4 and track #8 would both be organ-led
> which might explain the common writing credit they have in the sleeve, but
> since track #8 was apparently recorded separately anyway there might be
> nothing in that. Who knows? Presumably Greñas, if anyone wants to ask him.
> Annoyingly, this seems to have been in the term's worth of mail I forgot to
> back up when I first graduated, so I can't go back to the original words
> McGibbony (or Alien Gnudarve Lovejoy, as he was trading) or I used. Oh well.
>
>        And, as a postscript, let's note that both McGibbony in e-mail and
> McGibbony on the website claim that _So Many Minds..._ contains the full
> two-part version of the `Raven' suite, and indeed my copy of _So Many
> Minds..._ has the lyrics for the latter part, but it's not actually on the
> disc, only the same first half as is on the eponymous album is there. Since
> the album also has tracks 3 and 6 listed in the opposite order to which they
> appear through the speakers, I assumed this was another mastering plant
> error, but now that I think about it it is strange that McGibbony *believed*
> it had the full version on, because unlike a lot of what he seems to have
> believed, and may still believe wherever he now is, this could easily be
> checked. Do I have a weird version of *this* disc, or is everyone else's
> like that too? Yours,
>                                         Jon
>
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