(Off) FB - was: Re: Krankschaft April Update

[mary ann sullivan]

Agree, I hope you and your family are well.  It must be lots of fun watching
Luna grow.

Always, your friend,

Mare 

-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:17 PM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (Off) FB - was: Re: Krankschaft April Update

Everyone (well, almost) is trying to make money of their stuff.  Even
Hawkwind want to sell their records and concert tickets. :)

Since I have friends, family, and colleagues scattered over at least 3
(sometimes 4 or more) continents, FB is a very convenient way to keep up
with them.  After all, I don't have to look at their cat pictures if I don't
want to (nor they at mine! :).

But, yes: it's a good idea not to give away too much data to just about
anyone.  Neither FB nor anyone on it needs my phone number (and if they did,
they would already have it via other means), so there's no point in putting
it there.

But, really, this stuff has always been "common sense" -- it's just now
easier for people without common sense to mess up. ;)

Cheers,
Carl


On 01 Apr 2011, at 10:22 , Arjan Hulsebos wrote:

> Just as long as you treat FB and the likes as a sort-of online 
> bar/pub, you're OK. And, yeah, they're just as much interested in you as
Google is.
> 
> Gr,
> 
> Arjan H
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
>   ... and that most dreaded rock concert spectacle - the drum solo
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Steve Pond <Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK>
> To: Arjan Hulsebos <arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL>
> Sent: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:55:46 +0100
> Subject: Re: Krankschaft April Update
> 
>> Mary's right, they do want you to get hooked and use it like the 
>> family in F 451, I tried to resist it, and in fact only joined about 
>> a year ago. I was forced to because all the people I used to 
>> communicate with via mailing lists or user groups were all now 
>> chatting on FB and I was left out in the cold.  Morally superior, but
left out.
>> 
>> Having joined it I do like the interactions with "friends I've never 
>> met", but I'm suspicious of their motives re. data acquisition and I 
>> dislike their walled garden approach.
>> 
>> Consequently, they don't know my address, real phone number or main 
>> email address.
>> 
>> Basically places like MySpace, and now Facebook allow people who 
>> would never have got to grips with FTP, Newsgroups, Gopher, writing 
>> their own HTML, text only mailing lists etc to upload photos & video 
>> to the web, without any technical knowledge whatsoever.. and that 
>> sadly is what drives their momentum, 500 million cat pictures.
>> 
>> Use it, but don't feed it.
>> 
>> -S.
>> 
>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:43:51 -0400, you sent through the ether:
>> 
>>> Hi Carl,
>>> Chris told me to never sign up for FB, so like an idiot, I tried it 
>>> to see if I could use it, being blind.  Well, we tried to get off 
>>> the site, and after the little survey where they ask why I wanted to 
>>> leave we couldn't find anywhere to sign out, and I had someone who 
>>> can see helping.  They want you to get hooked, and spend lots of time in
there, like The Family in F.H.
>>> 451. 
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List 
>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund 
>>> Anderson
>>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 10:29 AM
>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>>> Subject: Re: Krankschaft April Update
>>> 
>>> I couldn't even find it on your page (which, at least, I could 
>>> find).  The mysteries of FB ....
>>> 
>>> I'm gonna check again later on a different machine!
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carl
>>> 
>>> On 01 Apr 2011, at 09:12 , Steve Pond wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Works here Karl, I just tried it in a browser I never use that has 
>>>> no cache or logins stored and it went straight there.. I can't make 
>>>> it not go there even via links on non-friended peoples pages.. erk!
>>>> 
>>>> -S.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 09:05:20 -0500, you sent through the ether:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 01 Apr 2011, at 08:56 , Steve Pond wrote:
>>>>>> Oh! I almost forgot.. please "like" us on facebook
>>>>>> (http://www.facebook.com/krankschaft) When we try to get gigs 
>>>>>> promoters look there & see we only have 256 "likes" which leads 
>>>>>> them to assume nobody will come to see us!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am struggling to get this link to work -- is the page there?  
>>>>> Mind you,
>>> I may well have already "Liked" Krankschaft, but I am having 
>>> difficulty confirming it!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Carl
>>>> 
> ------- End of Original Message -------
> 

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