HW) new version of Green Finned Demon for download

[Jonathan Smith]

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>        I have done, in fact, but I also know a bit about this lot because
> of a presentation a colleague who'd been studying them as part of a politics
> dissertation gave a while back.....
>        I am all for saving the cetaceans, don't get me wrong. But Sea
> Shepherd are even more confrontational than Greenpeace in the eighties (and
> arguably better at it). They are not, by themselves, going to stop whaling,
> their aim is to keep it sufficiently high-profile that governments act. It's
> government action, and enforcement of current rules, that's needed, and
> supporting Sea Shepherd seems to me a bit like paying someone to go and
> break things so that everyone agrees we need more police; it may well work,
> maybe it's even necessary but if it is then there are much bigger things
> wrong. That's my issue with it; if they need to exist, shouldn't we do
> something about *that*? But of coure maybe `we' can't, whereas we can
> support this lot... and I go back and forth, which is why I was asking if
> the music made a difference. Thanks for the feedback on that too! Yours,
>                             Jon
>
> You have done your homework! There's always a good reason to debate why we
need charities or NGOs. It *should* be our governments which are taking
action, but 99.9% of politicians are self-serving-- ours is
more interested in selling arms (cluster bombs are no problem for them!)
than saving any life, human or otherwise... There are arguably bigger and
more pressing problems.

Well, it is a new version of a HW song anyway.

  Jonathan
On 19 September 2011 09:41, <stewartbas at aol.com> wrote:

> You'll get 2 hour warning...have your baseball mit handy.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> To: BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> Sent: Sun, Sep 18, 2011 6:58 pm
> Subject: Re: HW) new version of Green Finned Demon for download
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> oh yeah, isnlt there a possible re-entering space junk threat just
> bout now.....
>
> n 9/18/11, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>  I heard some clear pictures of the human junk on the moon came back
>  recently...
>  that is so depressing :)
>
>  Going to mars??  have we seen what's at the bottom of our own planet
>  yet and threatened it directly??
>
>  how bout those dwindling coral reefs
>
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>  On 9/18/11, Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at coriolis.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011, Jonathan Smith wrote:
> >> The cause seems OK to me, better than previous ideas about the Dalai
> >> Lama.
> >> You can have a look: http://www.seashepherd.org/uk/uk.html
> >
> >       I have done, in fact, but I also know a bit about this lot because
> > of a presentation a colleague who'd been studying them as part of a
> > politics dissertation gave a while back.
> >
> >> There are a lot of charities out there, but anything that saves the
> >> cetaceans has to be good.
> >
> >       I am all for saving the cetaceans, don't get me wrong. But Sea
> > Shepherd are even more confrontational than Greenpeace in the eighties
> > (and arguably better at it). They are not, by themselves, going to stop
> > whaling, their aim is to keep it sufficiently high-profile that
> > governments act. It's government action, and enforcement of current
> > rules,
> > that's needed, and supporting Sea Shepherd seems to me a bit like paying
> > someone to go and break things so that everyone agrees we need more
> > police; it may well work, maybe it's even necessary but if it is then
> > there are much bigger things wrong. That's my issue with it; if they need
> > to exist, shouldn't we do something about *that*? But of coure maybe `we'
> > can't, whereas we can support this lot... and I go back and forth, which
> > is why I was asking if the music made a difference. Thanks for the
> > feedback on that too! Yours,
> >                            Jon
> >
> > --
> > "It's ridiculous, because everybody's coloured or you wouldn't be able
> >          to see them." (Captain Beefheart on racism, 1974)
> >     Jon Jarrett, Oxford, UK      jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
> >
>