HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward
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stewartbas at AOL.COM
Sun Aug 12 13:42:09 EDT 2012
I was kinda hoping the hawks would use the unexpurgated lyrics to Right to Decide.
bill s
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That's the one :)
Cheers
On 11/08/2012 21:25, Lucidsounds wrote:
> Albert Dryden.
>
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>> Does anyone out there remember the name of the guy that inspired the
>> lyrics to 'Right To Decide'? I think he shot a council member over
>> some planning permission incident.
>> I seem to remember that the band got a lot of stick for supporting
>> him when they issued it the first time round.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Horse
>>
>>
>> On 11/08/2012 15:57, Jonathan Jarrett wrote:
>>> On Wed, 9 May 2012, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote:
>>>> I am really surprised that there has been no discussion of the new
>>>> Hawkwind record. I still don't have mine but some of you out there
>>>> must have it by now... What do people think compared to Blood of
>>>> the Earth?? Has anyone heard the vinyl? They did a terrible job on
>>>> the mastering of the vinyl on the last one, sound was very muddy
>>>> (way too much low end) compared to the CD sound. Hope they sort
>>>> this one out. I have not bought the vinyl yet as I don't listen to
>>>> the last one on vinyl due to the sound issues.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I really look forward to hearing it and digging into the
>>>> songs...
>>>
>>> I actually only got hold of this album in the last couple of weeks,
>>> which is a bit poor for a fan I know. I'd been much encouraged by
>>> the two tracks I'd heard on Aural Innovations webcasts, and I now
>>> realise that in some ways those were the two tracks I was most
>>> likely to like (`Seasons' and the hidden track). But I've given it
>>> several spins now--I got the expanded edition--and have some
>>> opinions, if anyone wants 'em. Overall, though, my current verdict
>>> is that I actually like this album better than _Blood of the Earth_
>>> but can't easily explain why since I think the production is
>>> unhelpfully dense and that there are fewer stand-
>>> out tracks. It just seems like a coherent piece of work by a band
>>> that knew what it was after. That, also, seems strange when one
>>> looks at who was on the tracks and realises that, for example, Tim
>>> Blake's hardly there outside the tracks he wrote parts for, Dibs
>>> only gets two writing credits even though he seems omni-present and
>>> there's a sizeable part of the album which is all-or-mostly-Dave and
>>> which doesn't sound radically different to the rest even so. So my
>>> first impression was that this seems like a genuinely active and
>>> coherent band, and that looking as it to see whether or not this is
>>> `proper Hawkwind' or not is not going to be the right way to listen
>>> to it. It's obviously what the band called Hawkwind is doing now.
>>>
>>> So, track-by-track? `Seasons' is to my ear mainly Dibs's work but
>>> Richard actually gets lead credit so what do I know? Intense, fast
>>> and hostile; the dense production actually an advantage here, and
>>> definitely a highlight that makes one eager to hear more.
>>>
>>> `The Hills Have Ears'--a doomful Gaia-hypothesis prophecy on which
>>> Niall gets lead credit, in which case he should do that more often.
>>> The words aren't great but contain a Chrome reference, unexpected
>>> but pleasing. On the whole this is no drop in quality from the
>>> beginning.
>>>
>>> `Mind Cut'--all Brock, words music and playing, and none too bad but
>>> neither is it stand-out among his work. We've kind of heard this
>>> before, and the words are rather basic. (I care about this more as I
>>> get older.)
>>>
>>> `System Check'--a `Psychosis'-style spaceship radio exchange, in
>>> which Tim massively over-acts compared to the rest of the crew,
>>> bless him. Entertaining filler.
>>>
>>> `Death Trap'--retread, obviously, but really quite good, up with the
>>> _Alien4_ version as a justifiable rework and identifiably, as I say,
>>> a different band; this is the point at which I came to the
>>> realisation about this line-up's coherence that I set out above.
>>>
>>> `Southern Cross'--Tim's track, but it sounds like a Hawkwind one all
>>> the same, and better-than-entertaining instrumental filler.
>>>
>>> `Prophecy'--Brock track with only him, Niall and Richard on the
>>> recording. Again lyrics not the strong point but reasonably mantric,
>>> which forgives that a bit; all the same this isn't a high point.
>>>
>>> `Electric Tears'/`Drive By'--technically two tracks but I can't
>>> detect the separation between them without watching the CD player's
>>> display, despite the fact that the line-ups differ, first being just
>>> date and the latter being the trio from `Prophecy' again. The bit I
>>> think of as `Drive By' is a bit like `Taxi for Max' would have been
>>> if they'd stopped and completely rethought how to do something fun
>>> in that general frame. There's more thought generally in this pair
>>> than most of Hawkwind's synth interludes but they're very short.
>>>
>>> `Computer Cowards'--just Dave and Richard, and the lyrics uniquely
>>> not given in the sleeve. They're not hard to figure out: Dave
>>> doesn't like people sniping on the Internet and wishes them an evil
>>> fate. Hi Dave! It's in the vein of `Behind the Face' from
>>> _Spacebrock_ or `Comfy Chair' but darker, meaner and more musically
>>> repetitive, not that I mean that in a bad way. This is Dave's dark
>>> side coming out!
>>>
>>> `Howling Moon'--Brock solo and I've not really anything major to say
>>> about it. Probably the least impressive piece of music on the discs.
>>>
>>> `Right to Decide'--a bonus track, and well, yes, it's about the same
>>> as ever it was but with the sound of this new line-up, except in as
>>> much as it's the 2008 line-up with Jason Stuart also aboard. I quite
>>> liked Jason live but here the plinkety piano adds something
>>> dangerously like Rockney to the feel of things, something I think
>>> only `Brainbox Pollution' really copes with in the Hawkwind
>>> catalogue. Still a good song but rightly relegated to bonus-ville here.
>>>
>>> `Aerospaceage Inferno'--another bonus with that same line-up, and
>>> here again I don't find the piano much of a bonus. The lyrics are
>>> printed here, for some reason, whereas none of the other songs from
>>> before get this privilege; there's also a middle-eight poem from
>>> Dibs, or at least he recites it and it has his general flavour,
>>> about a bad re-entry by a spacecraft, which reads quite lamely on
>>> the page but which works very well in the setting of the bigger
>>> track, and definitely adds something. It's a good version but still,
>>> plinkety-plink, I can't look back on that as a good idea however
>>> good Jason was at it.
>>>
>>> `The Flowering of the Rose'--instrumental jam by the 2008 line-up
>>> again, and this one quite fun, think `Flight to Maputo' or `Going to
>>> Hawaii' or `Only Time Will Tell' but with a bit more going on that's
>>> melodic. I'm glad to have got this in the package.
>>>
>>> `Trans Air Trucking'--a Brock-Blake joint effort, with only them
>>> playing, Tim on bass as well as keys, and instrumental. I was hoping
>>> for a bit more life and bounce from it given the title, I'd kind of
>>> like to see the title taken off it and saved for something else as
>>> there isn't so much going on here. Pleasant enough!
>>>
>>> `Deep Vents'--Brock solo piece, but weirdly like one of Alan's
>>> pieces from the early nineties. Could have done with being longer! I
>>> like these noises and would cheerfully have had more of them.
>>>
>>> `Green Finned Demon'--the Brock-Hone-Chadwick trio here and a
>>> perfectly good version, but it's hard to say it really adds anything
>>> to the song that we didn't have in other versions. By the end of
>>> this album it's hard not to think that they powered it out so
>>> quickly that they couldn't come up with enough conventional songs so
>>> resorted to retreads to space out the synth work and poems.
>>>
>>> And then there's the hidden track, whose name I would like to know
>>> because it's really quite good, lyrics not unlike `Blood of the
>>> Earth' and ploughing the same kind of high-octane apocalypticism as
>>> `Seasons' at the beginning. I suspect Dibs and Niall of being to the
>>> fore on this one, and in general I don't understand why this one's a
>>> secret, it should be a matter for pride. Excellent closer.
>>>
>>> So, there's some filler I think and I question the need for two
>>> retreads (in fact I question the need for one but the `Death Trap'
>>> is so good I will forgive it) but I'm very happy to have them still
>>> active and *sounding like a band*. If they turned out another of
>>> this standard in eighteen months that would be a cause for
>>> celebration I reckon. So, there you go Scott, some thoughts :-)
>>> Yours all,
>>> Jon
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring
>> production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
>> — Frank Zappa
>
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