The upcoming North American tour

[Jonathan Smith]

Typos are a problem with computers, for me -- worse on smaller devices like
phones!






On 23 September 2013 13:37, Mary Ann Sullivan <MARYANN.SULLIVAN1 at verizon.net
> wrote:

> Thanks, John, that's reassuring, I make typos a lot, usually I'm better
> with
> sending a correct email, especially with spellchecker.
> As much as Nik feels entitled to use the name, this is really not fair to
> Dave, and the other members of Hawkwind.  A lot of the problem in the 90's
> was I was told many of the clubs used art work from albums, or Hawkwind
> lineups that Nik wasn't involved with. The timing of this is really bad,
> for
> everybody.   It's sad there are bad vibes, however  isn't that band
> business?  I would think we all have our minds set on what shows we'll
> catch, whether Nik or Dave will put on the better show, and all the other
> issues.  I admit, there have been times where the sound could have been
> better for Nik, however, the last show was happening during a storm, and
> Nik
> was late, and didn't have a chance for a sound check.  The sound was not
> nearly as good as what we'd get at a Hawkwind show.  At many other shows,
> like Strange Daze from what I remember the sound was fine, everyone was in
> tune, so they could obviously hear each other.
> I hope both Hawkwind, and Nik and friends have a good time here in the
> states, and both have good crowds, with all us long time fans, and a lot of
> new fans too.  The new music Nik and Dave are making is excellent on both
> counts.  There're are enough bad vibes in the world already, let the
> lawyers
> do their thing, the bands come over and play music, and we all have fun,
> that's what it's all about.  All this fighting is taking away positive
> energy from bothbands, and this kind of publicity Hawkwind, and all former
> members can do without.  .  I hope this is not an act of spite, and most
> everyone who listen to Hawkwind are aware of who Nik is.  His free form
> playing and play with lyrics has always been brilliant and as great as he
> can be on sax, I love it when Nik plays the flute.  I was never big on
> saxes
> in rock music, but Nik gave me an appreciation of it originally with the
> sounds he got playing on Space Ritual.  This fighting does not help anyone,
> and flaunting it isn't cool, everybody loses  That is not in the spirit of
> Hawkwind, "The people's band."    The music speaks for itself.
> Goodnight,
>
> Mary
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]
> On
> Behalf Of Jonathan Smith
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:59 PM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: Re: The upcoming North American tour
>
> I make typos all the time! ;)
>
> What bothers me is that Nik appears, on the surface at least, to just being
> spiteful.
>
>
> On 23 September 2013 11:49, Mary Ann Sullivan <
> MARYANN.SULLIVAN1 at verizon.net
> > wrote:
>
> > "if It REALLY turned out that Nik could stop Hawkwind using their own
> > name, I would have to not even buy a Nick record. "Mike, I'm looking
> > forward to getting the new album, I'd hate for that to happen, I hope
> > this blows over soon.  Nick can do crazy stuff, but I think he'd
> > respect the band, and his time in it, and not shoot everyone in the
> > ass.  Hopefully things will get better soon.  I'm tired.  Will write more
> again soon.
> >
> > Mary
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
> > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]
> > On
> > Behalf Of mike c
> > Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:21 AM
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > Subject: Re: The upcoming North American tour
> >
> > Nope one more after, blush.
> > if It REALLY turned out that Nik could stop Hawkwind using their own
> > name, I would have to not even buy a Nik record.
> > I just can't see him going through with that, even if he could.
> > But I could be wrong!!!
> > Will be watching.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/22/13, mike c <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > and one more little "thing"
> > > If i read Jimski correct he said one of Nik's bandmembers says Nik
> > > is/was not planning on using that name for the tour.
> > > If i read right, mayne Nik has reconsidered, made his point, just
> > > wants to own it, or has other plans
> > >
> > > don't know
> > > But maybe just maybe it is a good sign, If i read it right
> > >
> > > On 9/22/13, mike c <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I've forgotten
> > >> was Nik calling himself JUST Hawkwind when he first toured the
> states??
> > >> Was it not even "Nik Turner's Hawkwind" ??
> > >> and I am not arguing for Nik on any of this.
> > >> Just forgot
> > >> David Icke would be good, listen to that picture log book interview
> > >> again??
> > >> and yeah, the puke factor can get high.
> > >> this is not my fight
> > >> Dave has my own seal of capstone (which is like king of the earth
> > >> to me), but Nik can deliver some great stuff too, attitude aside.
> > >> I am not going to injure a thing for either playing the records.
> > >> Hopefully Nik will negotiate, he got everything else in proper
> > >> order to not offend the other party
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 9/22/13, Jonathan Smith <smithjm77x7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> Yes, Nik was only 'harrassed'  because  he was billing  himself
> > >>> as Hawkwind....
> > >>>
> > >>> The problems do seem to coming from one 'peace loving hippy' (cough).
> > >>> Maye
> > >>> David Icke could intervene?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 22 September 2013 15:05, mike c <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 9/22/13, martyn white <martyn_white_2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>> > It amazed me that a little shriveled-up old dude like Nik could
> > >>>> > still proceed apace in his mid-70s.  Power to the Geezer, man,
> > >>>> > I did notice that his Facebook (puke) page is labelled as Nik
> > >>>> > Turner (ex-Hawkwind) and I quote!
> > >>>> > Cheers
> > >>>> > M
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I only peaked at that page because I knew what was going to be
> > >>>> there and I am not sure I knew it was facebook when I went.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My mind went off wondering if the handshake ever took place. Kirk
> > >>>> seems like he might have gone off on a tangent just when it was
> > >>>> about to happen :) :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> also, to correct myself (please guys), when I said Nik was
> > >>>> harrassed, I just meant from his point of view, I happen to know
> > >>>> he was pursued about the manner in which his shows were billed.
> > >>>> I hope they have a meeting and let me get on spinning ALL the LP's.
> > >>>> It's what I do and I pray the the lizard people approve me to
> > >>>> keep on
> > >>>> :)
> > >>>> The world is so insane now.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>