Floyd 67-74 etc - a word in Waters' defense

[mary sullivan]

I hope Mr. Waters psycho therapy sessions helped him, I didn't support the
cause, although I admit the dark edge in the early Floyd was what drew me to
them, and although the Waters era was narcissistic, in many ways, he
provided an interesting counterpoint to Gilmore's music, sadly the band was
diminished by his loss, but I didn't like the direction they were headed.
They were all brilliant though.  I guess with The Floyd, there's something
for almost everyone, and they were crucial to the development of European
Psychedelic and progressive music.  

The falling out was a shame, I'm so thankful for a band like Hawkwind who
enjoy their toys.

Mary
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"Bridge Over Troubled Guilmore"... "Learning To Fry... Like Syd!"

2015-02-03 8:06 GMT+01:00 John Rennie <hawkfan at ratsauce.co.uk>:
> I don't know Roger Waters personally, but I suspect most who've seen the
various interviews he's given would agree that he takes himself awfully
seriously (a charge than can never be levelled at the Hawks :-). And if you
don't like preaching in music his later albums can get tedious.
>
> But as a lyricist he shows moments of genius. My own favourite is the
track Wish You Were Here. I find the lyrics almost painfully beautiful, even
now 40 (!!!) years after I first heard them.
>
> JR
>
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> Waters wrote like a man alienated from everything. When I was fifteen,
sixteen, such blanket disdain for the world carries a certain cachet. By the
time I had turned 30, it sounded histrionic and affected. I can't explain
the change that occurred in me any further except to say that many favorites
from my youth have stayed with me. I just didn't connect much with the
Waters-era albums after a time. I doubt my love for Obscured By Clouds
diminishes much though and, perhaps not so coincidentally, it isn't a Waters
dominated affair.
>
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> From: "John McIntyre" <mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU>
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> On 1/31/2015 7:16 PM, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote:
>> Floyd, for me, was a band for my teenage years. I wore the black print
off my cassette copy of The Wall as a teen, but you can't get me to listen
to it now. Too self-indulgent and marred with self-pity. There's a handful
of tracks from other albums that merit my time. The Final Cut is admirable
for its absolute refusal to give the listener comfort or entertainment.
Obscured By Clouds, however, is a real gem.
>
> Thank you for that insight.
>
> I did not have the option of Pink Floyd being a band for my teenage years.
>
> Err, come on.  It's not like anyone has an option as to which bands 
> are for their teenage years.
>
> But I had not thought about it before your posting.
>
> You made me think.
>
> As uncomfortable as that is, I still thank you. (-8
>
> Err, "a band for my teenage years"?
>
> What happened?  Did you grow up?
>
> As I was typing this I was giving a first listening to a Linda 
> Ronstadt footie that I picked up at the most recent Lansing record 
> show.  I did not realize when I grabbed it that it was from the point 
> in her career when she was channeling Frank Sinatra.  Err, yeah, she 
> grew up.  Damn shame about that.  Thank heavens she recovered.
>
> Time to go listen to "Ummagumma" again.
>
> John McIntyre
> mcintyre at pa.msu.edu