OFF: the truth is out there

Alex S. Garcia asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX
Mon Dec 1 11:23:13 EST 1997


Hmm... I am NOT going to bring that dreaded thread back up - I've already
mentioned my own opinions & beliefs in the past, in similar threads, as some
of you might remember. This said, I hadn't been reading my incoming BOC-L
mail for quite a while (due to too much work) and now that I've caught up, I
can't help but to answer to this one thing. Let it die, if you wish, but I
just needed to point this out - since no one else did...

Guido wrote :

>> Why should people in 1997 be any more
>> enlightened than people in the Dark Ages?  Just because we have better
>> education, better communication, etc does not FORCE people to have
>> enlightened opinions..
>
>You can lead a horse to water . . . true. People often remain unenlightened
>by choice. This is in contrast to the Dark Ages where there wasn't much
>choice. It seems reasonable to me that, presented with the tremendous
>educational opportunities we have today, that many people, if not most,
>would take advantage of these opportunities. But, there are those who do
>not have access to these opportunities, and there are those who choose to
>be just plain ignorant, and believe in silly things like Satan..

Okay. So let me see if I got this straight. To you, believing in God and
Satan (whether or not they do exist is beyond my point) is what you call
"unenlightened", that is to say "barbaric", perhaps, since you are talking
about "Dark Ages" ? At the very least, you are suggesting this is due to a
"lack of education" (since you mention educational opportunities of today as
if Christians ignored these). And yet, and yet, my dear Guido, could I point
out that most Christians are usually very altruistic people, who are always
ready to help others, honest, respectful of laws, etc... OTOH, when I look
around at the world, I am very frightened by what I see. The increase of
violence, strong language getting worse... this is slowly working its way
into everything, including video clips. Look at stuff by Marylin Manson,
NIN, etc... regardless of how good the music and/or lyrics are, the videos
are just gross and disgusting. Do we really need stuff like that ? Do you
find it "civilized" ? "educated" ? Someone on the list mentioned that bands
like Marilyn Manson just used this as an image, wanting to make
"music-you-don't-want-your-kids-to-listen"... right. But what's the point ?
I thought the goal in making music was to share it with others, and as many
as possible. Besides, I think at least 80% of the people who listen to those
bands ARE kids. I think bands use those images just to be original, to be
"different"... but why does it have to go into such violence and gore and
other such disgusting material ? Bowie was original in the 60's and 70's.
Ziggy was an image too, but there was nothing so disgusting about it.

Decadence is the word, here. So I'm sorry, Guido, but you make me laugh when
you say that people who believe in God or Satan have chosen to be
"unenlightened". When I compare the Christian community to the rest of the
world, I can tell you this : the Christian community seems much more
"normal" - and once again, I'm not talking about beliefs, but about the way
people act.

Geez, I'm sorry... hmmm... I didn't expect this to get so long and to turn
out just the way it did, but well, I put stuff in here that have been
bugging me for years, and I just had to get it out of my system ;-)

BTW, you can reply to this privately, if you want, to avoid turning this
into another neverending thread... :-o



Alex S. Garcia.

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