HW: Mission Control Website

[Richard Lockwood]

Oh, hell's teeth.

I think I started this, so I can't really back out now, can I?

1.  Yes, the site's Dave's - but as you say Rik, you built it for him.  If
it doesn't work for people, it's your fault.
2.  Guido is probably guessing that you got paid for it.  After all, a site
as extensive as you tell us it is takes a lot of time, and if you're a
professional web development company, you can't afford that time just as a
favour (unless you personally are doing it in your spare time, in which case
you're a better man than I.)
3.  I'm genuinely very sorry to hear about your personal traumas.
4.  I know I started this thing off with a rather heated attack on the site,
but the views of many other people seem to be that they find it at best
unwieldy, and at wost unusable.  Don't dig your heels in and get defensive -
listen to criticism, whether it's ranty or constructive, and at least
consider making changes and improvements.
5.  Yes, Guido's "Under Construction" animated gifs are annoying, but the
look and feel of the front page is (IMHO) rather nice.  Let's just hope he
gets round to finishing the site soon, rather than just leaving them there.

I'm really hoping that Mission Control v.2.0 (or however it's referred to)
will be a big improvement on MC v1.0 - I'll offer any help I can if you want
to ask - because it's a valuable resource (or could be) for all of us out
here.  (My arguments about Andy's site stay the same but I realise that that
isn't anything to do with you so I'll drop that one).

To summarise, Mission Control has a lot of info on it, some people like it,
some don't and some can't see it.  My advice would be simplify it (ie, lose
some of the "whizzy things"), and get a graphic designer with a bit of
knowledge about how people use websites in.  And don't get so defensive!

Hope v2 is well on the way,

Cheers,

RIch.


> Hi all
>
> Just a few lines on all the Kack....  the 'old chestnut' has emerged
again,
> it MUST be a low news day. . . . ZZZZZZzzzzzzz......
>
> Hey Guido - please note: I have already stated all the below before
*loads*
> of times, and this will be my final word on the subject:
>
> PLEASE NOTE:
>
> The Mission Control site is *not mine* - it is Dave's !
> We just do it for him - and once again Guido, you appear to ASSUME that we
> are "paid" for this... are you sure? do you have access to our accounts
> then? - and who the bloody hell are you to question me or anyone else on
> here about how we conduct business anyhow? Want to know what the financial
> arrangements are? ask Dave ! You also appear to know what the exact brief
> was in the design and layout of the site... Wow ! you MUST be well
> connected!
>
> As a point of note, we do the site for Dave in between our other projects,
> to allow him and the band to concentrate on doing important stuff like
> making music. Remember the music?
>
> In the last 18 months or so since we have been doing the site I have also
> been running two newly developing businesses and had some MAJOR personal
> problems, which includes losing a parent and my wife being (and remaining)
> seriously ill... so you are F**king lucky to have had a site to look at at
> all !
>
> THE SITE IS BEING UPDATED:
> Now there are (just) one or two people that are uncapable of understanding
> this concept. I am sick and tired of individuals that crib and cry over
the
> odd thing that doesn't work perfectly in their micky-mouse browser setup.
> Yes there are some valid points in some of your mails, but they are always
> buried deep behind a torrent of insults and negativity that goes way
beyond
> the realm of what can be considered by most reasonable people to be
> 'constructive criticism'.
>
> During the update, THE CURRENT SITE WILL NOT BE MODIFIED - I really don't
> know how to put this in a way that you are capable of understanding. I use
> the word 'capable' as you are still banging on about stuff on the current
> pages - the new site will address all sorts of things that people have
> raised - even some of your comments might be noted !
>
> Yes I KNOW there are some lyrics pages that need to go up and all sorts of
> other little things, but as I have told you over and over these will all
be
> addressed on the new encarnation AND NOT BEFORE so for god's sake stop
> repeating yourself like a stuck record - what do you really expect to
> achieve? THE SITE IS BEING CHANGED - sorry, but I can only supply the
facts;
> I'm not in a position to give you the ability to absorb them.
>
> The new site will be online as soon as it fits in with all our other
> projects, and yes, the 'missing' lyrics will be updated as soon as Dave
> gives me them, along with a bunch of other stuff !
>
> "CRAP DESIGN" - ok so that's your opinion and you are entitled to that -
> Here's mine - want an example of "crap design"? (your term)
> visit: http://www.spiralrealm.com/guido/
> The subtle use of "under construction" pages and blind links is
astounding.
> How we marvel at the "annoying little" spinning library-sourced animated
> gif's. etc etc.
>
> You are obviously the master - wa cannot complete with the sheer
brillience
> of this site. It's astounding.
>
> By the way, www.bedouin.info comes on line Friday too, I'm sure you'll be
> straight in there taking the piss - after all, as your site says, you are
a
> "web designer".
>
> Rx
>