A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind

[William Duffy]

Even though I now spend more money on DVD's, there are occasions when I
don't have access to a DVD player, & so listening to CD's are still the
preferred medium if you are driving a car, for example. I don't think it
would be a good idea to offer just DVDs either, though there might be means
of doing a CD that can be listened to as is, but also operate in a
multimedia fashion, for those with the technology. I have one like that
(Roger Glover's Butterfly Ball), which has multimedia features if played on
a computer with Quick Time. It may be possible to do that with CD's as well
on DVD Players, a bit like how some DVD Audio discs work? I'm not too clued
up on how the technology works, but DVD Audio works like an ordinary CD if
the player is not compatible with the format, so maybe it's possible to do
something similar with CD's, wherein you get multimedia features on a DVD
player, & just the audio on a CD player? If they can get things like that to
work using Quick Time on a PC, then there must be ways of doing this as
well?

Personally, I think the approach I suggested earlier is the easiest
alternative, if the band were to consider doing them on DVD. Offering a
choice of either medium, or giving them both a CD & DVD in the one package.
There are a few releases that have taken the later approach. Of course, you
could take it even further, & have 3 payment options, one for CD, another
for DVD, & another for both? Or how about doing CD's for most of the time, &
maybe once ofr twice during that period a special DVD release?

Bye for now
William


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind


> I think you are missing a point.
>
> CD's are portable, DVD's are not.  I'm not lugging around nor buying a DVD
> portable just to listen to music.
>
> CD's don't suck.  DVD's are simply a better medium for multimedia.
>
> Finally, CD players are more ubiquitous than DVD players. It's going to be
a
> challenge to reach the 500 critical mass of subscribers to get this off
the
> ground.  Putting it in a media that is not as accessible would be
financial
> suicide.
>
> So if Hawkwind wants to offer both that's great, but to simply offer DVDs
> only just wont work from a business perspective.
>
> Mike
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of
> chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 12:28 AM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind
>
>
> Hi ya,
>
> Like others I'm very interested in these CD's but want to know much more
> of what is planned.
>
> I get the impression they will all be soundboard recordings from the
> current tour.  Personally if thats the deal I'd want maybe the best one
> and another one but hard to justify getting all.
>
> If they cover a span of Hawkwind its a different matter.
>
> But I thought about this, what is the best thing for Hawkwind and best
> for us?
>
> Small aside:-
>   I don't like CD I never have liked CD.  I've had a DVD for 2 years.
> In my life I have bought exactly as many music DVD as I have commercial
> CD.  I have 6 music DVD (last of big spenders!!!) I like vynal cause it
> sounds good.  My ears ain't great, but DVD is OK.   CD sucks.  (I never
> fell for the you can hear the birds in the street trick CD salesmen
> tried - since when can you hear birds in the street when your in a sound
> proof recording studio - duh!!!)
>
> I don't think I'm alone in my prejudice, even dvd sales suggest I'm not.
>   So if like 500 of us said "don't give us music cd - give us 48k shn or
> 48k mp2 instead"  Its not putting Hawkwind to any extra trouble and we
> get something better, like in the sense of value thats worth paying for.
>
> But why not take it a step further, spend a day doing a simple 5.1 mix,
> and like give us 5.1 ac3 on a cd.   Production cost of cd is exactly the
> same, Hawkwind is going to sound great in 5.1 without too much effort.
> Hawkwind get credit for doing hi-tech hi-quality ground breaking
> marketing.   We get stuff that sounds cool:-)
>
> I have a feeling if something were done that way there would be _much_
> greater interest than there already is.   Its a 'turn on' not a 'turn
> off' to go away from music cd standard and try something better, which
> should also have a pay off with more official releases.
>
> The audio CD is going to die soon.  Already there is an unofficial DVD
> standard used (only???) for classical music that is 96k audio and gives
> 1 frame of video (ie a title) for each track (anyone with details of
> standard please contact me).
>
> So Hawkwind fans could be used as guinea pigs to try out different ways
> of marketing music.
>
> If it turns out production costs of limited edition dvd is about the
> same as for cd then why not give us 96k multichannel dreamscape void to
> hallucinate in?
>
> Chris
>
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