A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind

[Mark Storer]

Flippin eck!!!!
The band have come up with one of the best ideas I've heard of in decades,
and everyone seems to be whingeing!!
Lets get real here,
I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition over such a great opportunity
to get hold of some "exclusive" material, endorsed by the band.
CD's are great, I still like vinyl, DVD's are great too, so what???
Peace,
Mark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Duffy" <xl5 at IINET.NET.AU>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind


> Even though I now spend more money on DVD's, there are occasions when I
> don't have access to a DVD player, & so listening to CD's are still the
> preferred medium if you are driving a car, for example. I don't think it
> would be a good idea to offer just DVDs either, though there might be
means
> of doing a CD that can be listened to as is, but also operate in a
> multimedia fashion, for those with the technology. I have one like that
> (Roger Glover's Butterfly Ball), which has multimedia features if played
on
> a computer with Quick Time. It may be possible to do that with CD's as
well
> on DVD Players, a bit like how some DVD Audio discs work? I'm not too
clued
> up on how the technology works, but DVD Audio works like an ordinary CD if
> the player is not compatible with the format, so maybe it's possible to do
> something similar with CD's, wherein you get multimedia features on a DVD
> player, & just the audio on a CD player? If they can get things like that
to
> work using Quick Time on a PC, then there must be ways of doing this as
> well?
>
> Personally, I think the approach I suggested earlier is the easiest
> alternative, if the band were to consider doing them on DVD. Offering a
> choice of either medium, or giving them both a CD & DVD in the one
package.
> There are a few releases that have taken the later approach. Of course,
you
> could take it even further, & have 3 payment options, one for CD, another
> for DVD, & another for both? Or how about doing CD's for most of the time,
&
> maybe once ofr twice during that period a special DVD release?
>
> Bye for now
> William
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:00 PM
> Subject: Re: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind
>
>
> > I think you are missing a point.
> >
> > CD's are portable, DVD's are not.  I'm not lugging around nor buying a
DVD
> > portable just to listen to music.
> >
> > CD's don't suck.  DVD's are simply a better medium for multimedia.
> >
> > Finally, CD players are more ubiquitous than DVD players. It's going to
be
> a
> > challenge to reach the 500 critical mass of subscribers to get this off
> the
> > ground.  Putting it in a media that is not as accessible would be
> financial
> > suicide.
> >
> > So if Hawkwind wants to offer both that's great, but to simply offer
DVDs
> > only just wont work from a business perspective.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > http://corwyn.blogspot.com
> > the web log
> > http://www.mikemontfort.com
> > the web site
> > the quote of the day is:
> > Follow the grain in your own wood.
> > -- Howard Thurman
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
> > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of
> > chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 12:28 AM
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > Subject: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind
> >
> >
> > Hi ya,
> >
> > Like others I'm very interested in these CD's but want to know much more
> > of what is planned.
> >
> > I get the impression they will all be soundboard recordings from the
> > current tour.  Personally if thats the deal I'd want maybe the best one
> > and another one but hard to justify getting all.
> >
> > If they cover a span of Hawkwind its a different matter.
> >
> > But I thought about this, what is the best thing for Hawkwind and best
> > for us?
> >
> > Small aside:-
> >   I don't like CD I never have liked CD.  I've had a DVD for 2 years.
> > In my life I have bought exactly as many music DVD as I have commercial
> > CD.  I have 6 music DVD (last of big spenders!!!) I like vynal cause it
> > sounds good.  My ears ain't great, but DVD is OK.   CD sucks.  (I never
> > fell for the you can hear the birds in the street trick CD salesmen
> > tried - since when can you hear birds in the street when your in a sound
> > proof recording studio - duh!!!)
> >
> > I don't think I'm alone in my prejudice, even dvd sales suggest I'm not.
> >   So if like 500 of us said "don't give us music cd - give us 48k shn or
> > 48k mp2 instead"  Its not putting Hawkwind to any extra trouble and we
> > get something better, like in the sense of value thats worth paying for.
> >
> > But why not take it a step further, spend a day doing a simple 5.1 mix,
> > and like give us 5.1 ac3 on a cd.   Production cost of cd is exactly the
> > same, Hawkwind is going to sound great in 5.1 without too much effort.
> > Hawkwind get credit for doing hi-tech hi-quality ground breaking
> > marketing.   We get stuff that sounds cool:-)
> >
> > I have a feeling if something were done that way there would be _much_
> > greater interest than there already is.   Its a 'turn on' not a 'turn
> > off' to go away from music cd standard and try something better, which
> > should also have a pay off with more official releases.
> >
> > The audio CD is going to die soon.  Already there is an unofficial DVD
> > standard used (only???) for classical music that is 96k audio and gives
> > 1 frame of video (ie a title) for each track (anyone with details of
> > standard please contact me).
> >
> > So Hawkwind fans could be used as guinea pigs to try out different ways
> > of marketing music.
> >
> > If it turns out production costs of limited edition dvd is about the
> > same as for cd then why not give us 96k multichannel dreamscape void to
> > hallucinate in?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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