A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind

[Stephe]

Reel to reel is actually the best, but noone probably cares. :-) Wassail,
Stephe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Storer" <mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind


> Flippin eck!!!!
> The band have come up with one of the best ideas I've heard of in decades,
> and everyone seems to be whingeing!!
> Lets get real here,
> I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition over such a great
opportunity
> to get hold of some "exclusive" material, endorsed by the band.
> CD's are great, I still like vinyl, DVD's are great too, so what???
> Peace,
> Mark.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Duffy" <xl5 at IINET.NET.AU>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:48 PM
> Subject: Re: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind
>
>
> > Even though I now spend more money on DVD's, there are occasions when I
> > don't have access to a DVD player, & so listening to CD's are still the
> > preferred medium if you are driving a car, for example. I don't think it
> > would be a good idea to offer just DVDs either, though there might be
> means
> > of doing a CD that can be listened to as is, but also operate in a
> > multimedia fashion, for those with the technology. I have one like that
> > (Roger Glover's Butterfly Ball), which has multimedia features if played
> on
> > a computer with Quick Time. It may be possible to do that with CD's as
> well
> > on DVD Players, a bit like how some DVD Audio discs work? I'm not too
> clued
> > up on how the technology works, but DVD Audio works like an ordinary CD
if
> > the player is not compatible with the format, so maybe it's possible to
do
> > something similar with CD's, wherein you get multimedia features on a
DVD
> > player, & just the audio on a CD player? If they can get things like
that
> to
> > work using Quick Time on a PC, then there must be ways of doing this as
> > well?
> >
> > Personally, I think the approach I suggested earlier is the easiest
> > alternative, if the band were to consider doing them on DVD. Offering a
> > choice of either medium, or giving them both a CD & DVD in the one
> package.
> > There are a few releases that have taken the later approach. Of course,
> you
> > could take it even further, & have 3 payment options, one for CD,
another
> > for DVD, & another for both? Or how about doing CD's for most of the
time,
> &
> > maybe once ofr twice during that period a special DVD release?
> >
> > Bye for now
> > William
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike" <mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM>
> > To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind
> >
> >
> > > I think you are missing a point.
> > >
> > > CD's are portable, DVD's are not.  I'm not lugging around nor buying a
> DVD
> > > portable just to listen to music.
> > >
> > > CD's don't suck.  DVD's are simply a better medium for multimedia.
> > >
> > > Finally, CD players are more ubiquitous than DVD players. It's going
to
> be
> > a
> > > challenge to reach the 500 critical mass of subscribers to get this
off
> > the
> > > ground.  Putting it in a media that is not as accessible would be
> > financial
> > > suicide.
> > >
> > > So if Hawkwind wants to offer both that's great, but to simply offer
> DVDs
> > > only just wont work from a business perspective.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > http://corwyn.blogspot.com
> > > the web log
> > > http://www.mikemontfort.com
> > > the web site
> > > the quote of the day is:
> > > Follow the grain in your own wood.
> > > -- Howard Thurman
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
> > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of
> > > chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET
> > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 12:28 AM
> > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > > Subject: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi ya,
> > >
> > > Like others I'm very interested in these CD's but want to know much
more
> > > of what is planned.
> > >
> > > I get the impression they will all be soundboard recordings from the
> > > current tour.  Personally if thats the deal I'd want maybe the best
one
> > > and another one but hard to justify getting all.
> > >
> > > If they cover a span of Hawkwind its a different matter.
> > >
> > > But I thought about this, what is the best thing for Hawkwind and best
> > > for us?
> > >
> > > Small aside:-
> > >   I don't like CD I never have liked CD.  I've had a DVD for 2 years.
> > > In my life I have bought exactly as many music DVD as I have
commercial
> > > CD.  I have 6 music DVD (last of big spenders!!!) I like vynal cause
it
> > > sounds good.  My ears ain't great, but DVD is OK.   CD sucks.  (I
never
> > > fell for the you can hear the birds in the street trick CD salesmen
> > > tried - since when can you hear birds in the street when your in a
sound
> > > proof recording studio - duh!!!)
> > >
> > > I don't think I'm alone in my prejudice, even dvd sales suggest I'm
not.
> > >   So if like 500 of us said "don't give us music cd - give us 48k shn
or
> > > 48k mp2 instead"  Its not putting Hawkwind to any extra trouble and we
> > > get something better, like in the sense of value thats worth paying
for.
> > >
> > > But why not take it a step further, spend a day doing a simple 5.1
mix,
> > > and like give us 5.1 ac3 on a cd.   Production cost of cd is exactly
the
> > > same, Hawkwind is going to sound great in 5.1 without too much effort.
> > > Hawkwind get credit for doing hi-tech hi-quality ground breaking
> > > marketing.   We get stuff that sounds cool:-)
> > >
> > > I have a feeling if something were done that way there would be _much_
> > > greater interest than there already is.   Its a 'turn on' not a 'turn
> > > off' to go away from music cd standard and try something better, which
> > > should also have a pay off with more official releases.
> > >
> > > The audio CD is going to die soon.  Already there is an unofficial DVD
> > > standard used (only???) for classical music that is 96k audio and
gives
> > > 1 frame of video (ie a title) for each track (anyone with details of
> > > standard please contact me).
> > >
> > > So Hawkwind fans could be used as guinea pigs to try out different
ways
> > > of marketing music.
> > >
> > > If it turns out production costs of limited edition dvd is about the
> > > same as for cd then why not give us 96k multichannel dreamscape void
to
> > > hallucinate in?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
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